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Since we have not done anything to endanger the property or its inhabitants, it would be really good to keep Henry and his father believing that we are responsible tenants.<BR>
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If Dr. Jesus is into it, it would be good to ask him to contact Henry.<BR>
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Mitch.<BR>
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-----------------<BR>> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:18:46 -0800<BR>> From: rachel@xtreme.com<BR>> To: board@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>> Subject: [Noisebridge-board] [Fwd: Re: Fire Department Visits Noisebridge (oh, right, and there was a fire).]<BR>> <BR>> While prohibiting NB access to the second floor is a reasonable<BR>> decision, I'm pretty sure Henry has the wrong impression about the<BR>> location and the cause of the fire. Since Dr Jesus found the fire, I'd<BR>> like to ask him to tell Henry about it in a bit more detail so he has<BR>> better information. I am pretty sure it wasn't one of us and I'd prefer<BR>> the landlords not think that either if we can help it.<BR>> <BR>> Any objections to this? Anyone have a different course of action to<BR>> suggest?<BR>> <BR>> Rachel<BR>> <BR>> -------- Original Message --------<BR>> Subject: Re: Fire Department Visits Noisebridge (oh, right, and there<BR>> was a fire).<BR>> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 23:57:59 -0800<BR>> From: Henry Ho <henryhoproperty@gmail.com><BR>> To: Shannon Lee <shannon@scatter.com><BR>> CC: Rachel McConnell <rachel@xtreme.com>, Andy Isaacson<BR>> <adi@hexapodia.org>, Rubin Abdi <rubin@starset.net>, Alex Handy<BR>> <alexhandy@gmail.com><BR>> <BR>> Hi Shannon and Noisebridge members,<BR>> <BR>> I am glad to hear that everyone is safe. This could have turned out much<BR>> worse. Unfortunately, it has also come to my attention that there have<BR>> been ongoing events that have likely led to this near-disaster.<BR>> <BR>> It appears that the locks securing southern entry into the rear unit of<BR>> the second floor have been pried apart, and apparently have been<BR>> disabled since shortly after Noisebridge's move-in. It also appears that<BR>> there has been ongoing access to the second floor rear unit via the<BR>> story's north-east stairs connecting the 2nd and 3rd stories. My father<BR>> mentioned that someone had asked permission to enter the 2nd floor<BR>> during meeting days to avoid the crowding that occurs on the 3rd floor.<BR>> While my father permitted this, he did not intend for access to occur at<BR>> any other time for any other reason (other than emergencies or with<BR>> prior consent). Unfortunately, perhaps due to the ease of access to the<BR>> 2nd floor due to the combination of the previously mentioned entry<BR>> issues, it seems that there may be such prohibited entries recurring.<BR>> <BR>> While we agree that it is unlikely a case of arson, we do however<BR>> believe that it was more likely a case of a member of Noisebridge<BR>> entering the 2nd story rear unit for a cigarette. We ruled out that it<BR>> was anyone in the 2nd floor because firstly, they were not there because<BR>> they don't work over the weekends. Their business has been suffering<BR>> over the past few months so it is unlikely that they would have enough<BR>> work to come in on weekends. Secondly, they don't smoke or use incense<BR>> in the building. Over the past decade, an incident like this has never<BR>> occurred.<BR>> <BR>> Unfortunately, to address the issue and help prevent a situation like<BR>> this from happening again, *we must revoke and prohibit access to the<BR>> 2nd floor by Noisebridge members* and restore the locks to the 2nd floor<BR>> units, monitoring their condition from time to time. We understand that<BR>> Noisebridge is a large group and that some members' actions are out of<BR>> the control of leading members, but we must insist that this policy<BR>> change be announced and enforced to the best of your organization's<BR>> abilities. We are not doing this to punish, but to ensure the safety of<BR>> all tenants of the building. Aside from this incident, you have been<BR>> great tenants.<BR>> <BR>> We understand that Noisebridge is growing everyday, and as space becomes<BR>> an issue, members may naturally wander and explore other parts of the<BR>> building, perhaps to get away from the crowd to gain some privacy. If<BR>> this continues to be the case, Noisebridge is always welcome to rent the<BR>> 2nd floor unit(s). This way, with more space and occupation of the<BR>> building, members will be less likely to engage in clandestine<BR>> activities away from the central group. If it sounds like a bad sales<BR>> pitch, it probably is :) but please do consider the possibility as it<BR>> appears we all stand to gain from such an arrangement.<BR>> <BR>> If you have any more questions or concerns, please feel free to contact<BR>> me at any time. You can reach me via email at this address or you can<BR>> contact me directly at 415.420-2189.<BR>> <BR>> Best Regards,<BR>> <BR>> Henry Ho<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon@scatter.com<BR>> <mailto:shannon@scatter.com>> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> Hey Henry,<BR>> <BR>> Just keeping you in the loop.<BR>> <BR>> --S<BR>> <BR>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<BR>> From: *Shannon Lee* <shannon@scatter.com <mailto:shannon@scatter.com>><BR>> Date: Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:55 PM<BR>> Subject: Fire Department Visits Noisebridge (oh, right, and there<BR>> was a fire).<BR>> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>> <mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net>><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Hey All,<BR>> <BR>> Earlier this evening, just after the knot symposium ended, Dr Jesus<BR>> smelled fire, and wandered around looking for it; after a while, he<BR>> discovered that there was a smoldering piece of cardboard on the<BR>> second floor landing of the south ("banana") staircase. There was<BR>> apparently a match nearby.<BR>> <BR>> Dr. Jesus brought the smoldering piece of cardboard upstairs and<BR>> doused it in water. There was a lot of smoke and yelling for a few<BR>> minutes, and 911 was called. The fire department instructed us to<BR>> clear the space, which we did, slowly and anarchically.<BR>> <BR>> The fire department arrived as the last people were leaving the<BR>> space, maybe five minutes after they were called; they investigated,<BR>> and decided that it probably wasn't arson and that the smouldering<BR>> cardboard was probably the extent of the fire. While a couple of<BR>> them checked around downstairs, others stayed and chatted with me<BR>> about the space -- they seemed interested in Noisebridge's function,<BR>> and inquired about how to become members, and about what dues cost.<BR>> <BR>> They spent about five minutes in the space and then took off.<BR>> <BR>> The best explanation I've heard offered for what happened so far was<BR>> that maybe the downstairs neighbor was lighting incense; there<BR>> didn't seem to be a cigarette nearby. Nobody answered the door<BR>> downstairs.<BR>> <BR>> --S<BR>> <BR>> --<BR>> Shannon Lee<BR>> (503) 539-3700<BR>> <BR>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --<BR>> Shannon Lee<BR>> (503) 539-3700<BR>> <BR>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Board mailing list<BR>> Board@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/board<BR> </body>
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