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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">It's very good that Orga is running
these shuttle buses. I've actually done some cycling up by the
Ziegeleipark, and it is definitely quite empty out there. <br>
<br>
I plan to pick a time on Wednesday that has a few people already,
sign up for that shuttle, and go to camp. If somehow that fails,
I'll just get a taxi, but I speak German. If you want to ride
with, let me know.<br>
<br>
As for Zehdenick, it's a one-stoplight town. I almost got stranded
there because the tiny train only had room for 3 bikes. We
gaijin-smashed our way on somehow.<br>
<br>
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On 8/7/15 3:46 AM, Mitch Altman wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sven figured out the best routes for public transit
from Berlin to Camp -- 90 minutes:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://guckes.net/camp/">http://guckes.net/camp/</a><br>
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<hr id="stopSpelling">From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rubin@starset.net">rubin@starset.net</a><br>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:29:14 +0200<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:congress@lists.noisebridge.net">congress@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-congress] Shuttle The Fuck Up<br>
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<div dir="ltr">There was also this blog post about shuttles
from Berlin...
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://events.ccc.de/2015/08/06/shuttle/"
target="_blank">https://events.ccc.de/2015/08/06/shuttle/</a><br>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Additional_Shuttles_from.2Fto_Berlin"
target="_blank">https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Additional_Shuttles_from.2Fto_Berlin</a><br>
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<div>One thing I'd like to remind folks is that once you
start wandering out of Berlin, the number of English
speakers drastically drops. People still tend to be
friendly, but will get annoyed enough to ignore you if you
continue to try to speak in English to them and they've
made it clear that isn't something they're into. So if you
do opt to grab one of the actually local municipal buses,
be sure you've got an German speaker with you who can call
to make the reservation and also be your spirit animal
riding it.</div>
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<div>Additionally the local buses are more like a minivan
and can only fit 8 people.</div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 7 August 2015 at 09:00,
Christoph Maier <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:christoph.maier@ieee.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:christoph.maier@ieee.org">christoph.maier@ieee.org</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><a
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href="http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer">reiseauskunft.bahn.de</a> says:<br>
Zehdenick Bahnhof Mi, 12.08.15 ab 19:00 Bus 838 Bus
Richtung: Tornow<br>
Altes Schloß, Fürstenberg (Havel)<br>
Rufbus, Tel. (03306) 2307 Anmeldung mind. 90 Min. vor
Fahrtantritt. ,<br>
keine Fahrradbeförderung möglich Mildenberg
Ziegeleipark, Zehdenick<br>
Mi, 12.08.15 an 19:06<br>
<br>
that the bus from Zehdenick station to Mildenberg
Ziegeleipark is<br>
on-demand and must be scheduled at least 90 minutes
before using it.<br>
This is still regular public transportation.<br>
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On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Ronald Miloh
Alexander<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:froggytoad@gmail.com">froggytoad@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:28:10PM -0700, lilia
wrote:<br>
>> There's a big table here for shuttle
signups but not a lot of details:<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Shuttles_from.2Fto_Gransee"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Shuttles_from.2Fto_Gransee</a><br>
>><br>
>> Does anybody know about this service from
previous years? Is this distinct<br>
>> from the public bus service? If I increment
the appropriate counter, will<br>
>> there magically be a ride waiting for me?
Is it cost money? Reliable? Or<br>
>> like wtf?<br>
><br>
> I think the shuttles you write of are free for
campers and orga-run.<br>
> German reliability index is high. There is also
a local region bus,<br>
> 854, that runs a few times a day and includes a
stop 'Mildenberg,<br>
> Ziegelpark' on its route. This is mentioned in
the notes following the<br>
> table. PDF WARN<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ovg-online.de/fileadmin/downloads/Fahrplandaten/aktuelle_Fahrplaene/Linie_854.pdf"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.ovg-online.de/fileadmin/downloads/Fahrplandaten/aktuelle_Fahrplaene/Linie_854.pdf</a><br>
><br>
> I got acquainted with Gransee Banhoff: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://goo.gl/maps/dEDj6" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://goo.gl/maps/dEDj6">https://goo.gl/maps/dEDj6</a></a><br>
> Notice train/bus transit options from this
station include 'RE5'.<br>
> Still can't understand why shuttles aren't run
from Zehdenick, it must<br>
> be because train frequency is lower to that
station but it still<br>
> looked hourly (in schedule) to me. Perhaps the
train operates fewer<br>
> hours for week to that town<br>
><br>
> I didn't shuttle before when the camp was in
Finowfurt -- but Gransee<br>
> is 12km from site, this looks like an orga run
shuttle timed to the<br>
> arrival of the frequent (hourly?)
Berlin/Potsdamer platz 'RE5' train<br>
> in Gransee.<br>
><br>
> For arrival on the 11th and 12th, it looks like
RE 4358 at 13:26 is<br>
> winning.<br>
><br>
> Perhaps Mitch knows more about this?<br>
><br>
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