<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Definitely just take the shuttle. It's
just fine.<br>
-c<br>
<br>
On 8/12/15 6:25 PM, Ben Rupert wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAEY_U9mihw3NFY8CBnTG08hEXLM_BY835zgjuOL60Td8TSpyKg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Ben, I am coming in on a train tomorrow with Steven
Dee and Cypher Punk. We'll be at Gransee sometime between 11:00
and 12:00. We'll know an exact time once we're made it to the
train station. Any chance that we could take you up on this
offer since there will be three NOPE people arriving together
(and hopefully therefore and efficient and worthwhile trip)? Or
do you think that the official shuttle will be just fine?
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Other Ben<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Ben
Kochie <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ben@nerp.net" target="_blank">ben@nerp.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Sorry I
wasn't clear.<br>
<br>
This shuttle would only be for Gransee -> camp. It's 2.5
hours round-trip to Berlin, which is very expensive
considering gas is $5-6/gallon here. Not to mention a huge
waste of time.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
-ben</font></span>
<div class="HOEnZb">
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Ben Kochie wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I'm borrowing a car from a coworker (who is also going
up to camp). I can not drive it, but we have a few
people who can. We can provide an on-demand shuttle
if necessary. It's a VW polo, so it's not super high
capacity, but should be enough to get 3 people to camp
at a time.<br>
<br>
-ben<br>
<br>
On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Casey Callendrello wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It's very good that Orga is running these shuttle
buses. I've actually done some cycling up by<br>
the Ziegeleipark, and it is definitely quite empty
out there.<br>
<br>
I plan to pick a time on Wednesday that has a few
people already, sign up for that shuttle, and<br>
go to camp. If somehow that fails, I'll just get a
taxi, but I speak German. If you want to<br>
ride with, let me know.<br>
<br>
As for Zehdenick, it's a one-stoplight town. I
almost got stranded there because the tiny train<br>
only had room for 3 bikes. We gaijin-smashed our way
on somehow.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 8/7/15 3:46 AM, Mitch Altman wrote:<br>
Sven figured out the best routes for public
transit from Berlin to Camp -- 90<br>
minutes:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://guckes.net/camp/" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">http://guckes.net/camp/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________________________________________________________<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rubin@starset.net" target="_blank">rubin@starset.net</a><br>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:29:14 +0200<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:congress@lists.noisebridge.net"
target="_blank">congress@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-congress] Shuttle
The Fuck Up<br>
<br>
There was also this blog post about shuttles
from Berlin...<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://events.ccc.de/2015/08/06/shuttle/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://events.ccc.de/2015/08/06/shuttle/</a><br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Additional_Shuttles_from.2Fto_Berlin"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Additional_Shuttles_from.2Fto_Berlin</a><br>
<br>
One thing I'd like to remind folks is that once you
start wandering out of Berlin, the<br>
number of English speakers drastically drops. People
still tend to be friendly, but will<br>
get annoyed enough to ignore you if you continue to
try to speak in English to them and<br>
they've made it clear that isn't something they're
into. So if you do opt to grab one of<br>
the actually local municipal buses, be sure you've
got an German speaker with you who can<br>
call to make the reservation and also be your spirit
animal riding it.<br>
<br>
Additionally the local buses are more like a minivan
and can only fit 8 people.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 7 August 2015 at 09:00, Christoph Maier <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:christoph.maier@ieee.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:christoph.maier@ieee.org">christoph.maier@ieee.org</a></a>>
wrote:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">reiseauskunft.bahn.de</a>
says:<br>
Zehdenick Bahnhof Mi, 12.08.15 ab 19:00 Bus
838 Bus Richtung: Tornow<br>
Altes Schloß, Fürstenberg (Havel)<br>
Rufbus, Tel. (03306) 2307 Anmeldung mind. 90
Min. vor Fahrtantritt. ,<br>
keine Fahrradbeförderung möglich Mildenberg
Ziegeleipark, Zehdenick<br>
Mi, 12.08.15 an 19:06<br>
<br>
that the bus from Zehdenick station to
Mildenberg Ziegeleipark is<br>
on-demand and must be scheduled at least 90
minutes before using it.<br>
This is still regular public transportation.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Ronald Miloh
Alexander<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:froggytoad@gmail.com" target="_blank">froggytoad@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:28:10PM -0700,
lilia wrote:<br>
>> There's a big table here for shuttle
signups but not a lot of details:<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Shuttles_from.2Fto_Gransee"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Shuttles_from.2Fto_Gransee</a><br>
>><br>
>> Does anybody know about this service
from previous years? Is this distinct<br>
>> from the public bus service? If I
increment the appropriate counter, will<br>
>> there magically be a ride waiting for
me? Is it cost money? Reliable? Or<br>
>> like wtf?<br>
><br>
> I think the shuttles you write of are
free for campers and orga-run.<br>
> German reliability index is high. There
is also a local region bus,<br>
> 854, that runs a few times a day and
includes a stop 'Mildenberg,<br>
> Ziegelpark' on its route. This is
mentioned in the notes following the<br>
> table. PDF WARN<br>
><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ovg-online.de/fileadmin/downloads/Fahrplandaten/aktuelle_Fahrplaene/Linie_854.pdf"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ovg-online.de/fileadmin/downloads/Fahrplandaten/aktuelle_Fahrplaene/Linie_854.pdf</a><br>
><br>
> I got acquainted with Gransee Banhoff: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://goo.gl/maps/dEDj6" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://goo.gl/maps/dEDj6">https://goo.gl/maps/dEDj6</a></a><br>
> Notice train/bus transit options from
this station include 'RE5'.<br>
> Still can't understand why shuttles
aren't run from Zehdenick, it must<br>
> be because train frequency is lower to
that station but it still<br>
> looked hourly (in schedule) to me.
Perhaps the train operates fewer<br>
> hours for week to that town<br>
><br>
> I didn't shuttle before when the camp was
in Finowfurt -- but Gransee<br>
> is 12km from site, this looks like an
orga run shuttle timed to the<br>
> arrival of the frequent (hourly?)
Berlin/Potsdamer platz 'RE5' train<br>
> in Gransee.<br>
><br>
> For arrival on the 11th and 12th, it
looks like RE 4358 at 13:26 is<br>
> winning.<br>
><br>
> Perhaps Mitch knows more about this?<br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Congress mailing list<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Congress@lists.noisebridge.net"
target="_blank">Congress@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress</a><br>
><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Congress mailing list<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Congress@lists.noisebridge.net"
target="_blank">Congress@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Rubin<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rubin@starset.net" target="_blank">rubin@starset.net</a><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________
Congress mailing list<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Congress@lists.noisebridge.net"
target="_blank">Congress@lists.noisebridge.net</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress</a><br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Congress mailing list<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Congress@lists.noisebridge.net"
target="_blank">Congress@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Congress mailing list<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Congress@lists.noisebridge.net">Congress@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
<pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Congress mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Congress@lists.noisebridge.net">Congress@lists.noisebridge.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/congress</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>