<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; "><div>Ahh memories...you should've seen it when I jacked up the speed as high as it would go, I kept tensing up so much I couldn't stop lol. The development kit is pretty fancy, it includes a bunch of extra tools and is mostly geared towards companies. The sensor by itself, on the other hand, is something I can offer heavily discounted...say $100-200 each, with volume discounts. Call it a hackerspace special :)</div>
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<br>Wow, that's super awesome! I'd love to play with these sensors! I<br>found your mind controlled wheel chair video:<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQv61899HE" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQv61899HE</a><br>
<br>Unfortunately the company seems to want $2k for the development kit.<br>Can you swing us a deal somehow? Or do you still have rights to the<br>underlying tech that you could open source?<br><br>Eric<br><br><br><br>On 11/16/10 12:41 AM, Thomas Coleman wrote:<br>
> Heya all,<br>><br>> I'm the Thomas Coleman mentioned below, sorry for the delay responding.<br>> The sensors mentioned by Mikolaj are derived from the core technology<br>> behind the Audeo (<a href="http://www.theaudeo.com/" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">http://www.theaudeo.com</a>). They input three signals<br>
> from the surface of the skin (and power/ground), and output a unipolar<br>> digital signal corresponding to the level of muscle activity. Bigger<br>> muscle activity, bigger byte value. The cool thing is I originally<br>
> designed them to detect the extremely low level signals of people no<br>> longer able to produce detectable activity, like locked in ALS patients.<br>> This means they can pick up signals so weak nobody can tell you're even<br>
> doing anything to trigger them. It takes some self-training to reliably<br>> control your signals like that, but once you get it you can do all kinds<br>> of cool/spooky things (somewhere out there is a youtube vid of me evilly<br>
> cruising in a wheelchair among other things hehe). Anyways, long story<br>> short the sensors he was talking about are more hacker-friendly than<br>> furry-specific. They're reliable, sensitive, RF immune, tiny, and can<br>
> even use steel as skin contacts. Sorry I'm kinda proud of my babies :)<br>><br>> ~T<br>><br>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Mikolaj Habryn <<a href="mailto:dichro@rcpt.to" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">dichro@rcpt.to</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dichro@rcpt.to" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">dichro@rcpt.to</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> Sorry for vanishing after that tantalizing message :P I'm mid-travel<br>
> (and<br>> mostly mid-travail, as well).<br>><br>> I didn't design the sensors; they're being done by one Thomas<br>> Coleman, who<br>> also does EMG stuff professionally. The current prototype is a<br>
> single sensor<br>> (three-lead) differential amplifier plus microcontroller in a small,<br>> sealed<br>> 8-pin module that outputs serial. I've pointed him at this thread, so<br>> hopefully he'll have a chance to weigh in with more detail.<br>
><br>> m.<br>><br>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Tomm <<a href="mailto:tomm.fire@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">tomm.fire@gmail.com</a><br>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tomm.fire@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">tomm.fire@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>> > Nov. 7th works for me. I have some new hardware<br>> > to show off from my ultrasound project, might even<br>> > be able to show it all working (!).<br>> ><br>> > Tom<br>
> ><br>> > On 10/24/10 11:30 PM, <a href="mailto:ch_luk@berkeley.edu" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">ch_luk@berkeley.edu</a><br>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ch_luk@berkeley.edu" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">ch_luk@berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > Hi Sarah,<br>> > ><br>> > > Your work is really neat! Would you be willing to show us<br>> some of it<br>> > at<br>> > > a future cyborg meeting, perhaps next month? We hold monthly-ish<br>
> > > meetings Sunday afternoons starting at 4 pm in the Noisebridge<br>> space<br>> > > (2169 Mission St). Might Nov. 7 or 21 work for you?<br>> > ><br>> > > To the local Bay Area cyborgs, who's free Nov. 7 or Nov. 21?<br>
> (I'm at a<br>> > > conference Nov. 14.) It'd be great to have everyone<br>> show-and-tell their<br>> > > current work. Automated zebrafish heartbeat sensing, Todd? Eric<br>
> and I<br>> > > should have a complete pulse choker prototype for you to try on<br>> by then.<br>> > > =)<br>> > ><br>> > > To the remote cyborgs, book your plane tickets and visit! ;)<br>
> Also,<br>> > what<br>> > > makes the EMG sensor you speak of specific for furry-tech, Mikolaj?<br>> > ><br>> > > Sarah, does wanting to add electronic eyelashes or wings<br>
> count in the<br>> > > adding-limbs-that-humans-don't-normally-have genre?<br>> > ><br>> > > Smiles,<br>> > > Chung-Hay<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>
> > >> I have some EMG stuff queued up to work on too. I met a<br>> gentleman at<br>> > PS:1<br>> > >> a<br>> > >> few months ago and we got each other enthusiastic enough that<br>
> he has<br>> > >> prototyped up some EMG sensors specifically for furry-tech<br>> applications<br>> > (I<br>> > >> was going to start with articulated pointy ears, but tails were<br>
> > definitely<br>> > >> on the wistfully desired list :). I'll be funding an initial<br>> run of<br>> > >> sensors<br>> > >> (probably no more than a dozen or so) when I get back to NYC;<br>
> would be<br>> > >> happy<br>> > >> to send some to Noisebridge for experimentation if they'd be of<br>> > interest.<br>> > >><br>> > >> m.<br>
> > >><br>> > >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Sarah Nordstrom<br>> > >> <<a href="mailto:sarahemm@sarahemm.net" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">sarahemm@sarahemm.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sarahemm@sarahemm.net" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">sarahemm@sarahemm.net</a>>>wrote:<br>
> > >><br>> > >>> I was talking to Rachel (apologies if I've misspelled your<br>> name) at<br>> > >>> Noisebridge a couple days back, and we got talking about<br>
> tails. I<br>> > >>> started<br>> > >>> working on a tail with gyros and accelerometers in it a<br>> couple years<br>> > >>> back,<br>> > >>> to assist with balance (my inner ears don't work properly),<br>
> and have<br>> > >>> been<br>> > >>> inspired to start working on that again! :) I said I'd post<br>> the links I<br>> > >>> was talking about, so here they are:<br>
> > >>> The howto pages I talked about are at<br>> > >>> <a href="http://www.wolftronix.com/howto.htm" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">http://www.wolftronix.com/howto.htm</a><br>
> > >>> and the bionic tail (using EMG data to control a tail)<br>> project is at<br>> > >>> <a href="http://www.wolftronix.com/biotail/biotail.htm" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(7, 77, 143); ">http://www.wolftronix.com/biotail/biotail.htm</a>.<br>
> > >>><br>> > >>> Anyone else interested in tails or other types of<br>> > >>> adding-limbs-that-humans-don't-normally-have? (or even limbs<br>> humans<br>
> > *do*<br>> > >>> normally have?)<br>> > >>><br>> > >>> - Sarah<br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>> _______________________________________________<br>
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