Ooh I just meant to use it to measure heart rate changes which can tell you a lot about the person's mental state. No neural feedback there. <br><br>But yeah, I agree. OpenEEG is the cool but there are too many other things that are cool as well! <br>
<br>Jean<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Praveen Sinha <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dmhomee@gmail.com">dmhomee@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I didn't know you could use Pulse Oximeter for (neural) biofeedback --<br>
how do you use it? Of course I think the openEEG thing is a great<br>
idea, although I'm starting to get the feeling I need to be picky<br>
about projects to launch/get invovled with at noisebridge or I will<br>
have to move in there :)<br>
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On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Jean Rintoul <<a href="mailto:jean.rintoul@gmail.com">jean.rintoul@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I don't think those guys released the SDK but I could be wrong.<br>
><br>
> There are big debates about releasing the raw EEG in all of the products for<br>
> no good reason, which is a bit inconvenient. They'd all need some careful<br>
> alterations... like maybe custom drivers and whatnot.<br>
><br>
> There are tons of other cheaply available biofeedback things like GSR and<br>
> Pulse Oximeters which seem interesting too.<br>
><br>
> Maybe Noisebridge could improve/continue OpenEEG?<br>
><br>
> Jean<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Praveen Sinha <<a href="mailto:dmhomee@gmail.com">dmhomee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Wow the ocz neural doohickey is really comparitvely cheap -- I think I<br>
>> appreciate the differences as to what the emotiv product is trying to<br>
>> do in terms of learning a brain pattern, but... Would the neurosky or<br>
>> ocz products be good platforms to take the hardware and write your own<br>
>> software for more complicated uses?<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Jean Rintoul <<a href="mailto:jean.rintoul@gmail.com">jean.rintoul@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Yeah I've tried it.<br>
>> > It is an incarnation of Neurosky's contribution to the BCI market.<br>
>> > Emotiv<br>
>> > and Neurosky were both at last years GDC and we had tried each other's<br>
>> > products. All processing is done in hardware, and it appears to only be<br>
>> > an<br>
>> > alpha wave detector. There is no training machine-learning component.<br>
>> > You<br>
>> > can select what you want your meditative state to trigger, be it killing<br>
>> > cute animals, or setting things on fire(examples they had).<br>
>> > <a href="http://www.neurosky.com/products/mindflex/" target="_blank">http://www.neurosky.com/products/mindflex/</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Very simple. Hence their ability to bring it to market so quickly.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Also tried this one:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/ocz_peripherals/nia-neural_impulse_actuator" target="_blank">http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/ocz_peripherals/nia-neural_impulse_actuator</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > It's a bit better, but very much affected by mains noise. Still, limited<br>
>> > in<br>
>> > what it can pick up and not many electrodes(this one is trainable). It<br>
>> > also<br>
>> > looks a little like some kind of 80's head band... not that there is<br>
>> > anything wrong with that...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://vadim.oversigma.com/Emotiv/Emoraptor.mpg" target="_blank">http://vadim.oversigma.com/Emotiv/Emoraptor.mpg</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Jean<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Josh Myer <<a href="mailto:josh@joshisanerd.com">josh@joshisanerd.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Has anybody heard anything definite about the Mattel Mindflex? Or,<br>
>> >> better yet, gotten their grubby little mitts on one?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <a href="http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/01/06/mattel_mindflex/" target="_blank">http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/01/06/mattel_mindflex/</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> It looks like a fun sort of toy, going back to everyone's fascination<br>
>> >> with EEGs and brainwaves.<br>
>> >> --<br>
>> >> Josh Myer 650.248.3796<br>
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