<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>All black, good quality shirts, XXXL :)</div><div><br></div><div>As far as the rest, I don't know.. I'm sure there are places that use decent materials out there.</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">Suggestions?<br><br><br> <br><hr id="stopSpelling"><br>CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jacob@appelbaum.net">jacob@appelbaum.net</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:markc@binaryfaith.com">markc@binaryfaith.com</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com">maltman23@hotmail.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge shirts<br>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:51:29 -0800<br><br><br><div><br></div><div>My problem with American Apparel is that they don't make crap in my size.. They fit everything to one size smaller. (the CEO does like his clothes fitting nice and snug on his barely legal models...)</div><div><br></div><div>Also, the CEO fired his CTO for not lying about their profits... </div><div><br></div><div>I'd rather support a more ethical company personally..</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:</div><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div class="EC_hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:42:49 -0700<br>> From:<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jacob@appelbaum.net">jacob@appelbaum.net</a><br>> To:<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge shirts<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Alex Perez wrote:<br>> > My apologies for replying to myself, but I felt I needed to elaborate<br>> > upon my prior comment. Yes, I realize there are plenty of sweatshops in<br>> > *this* country as well, but American Apparel really is deserving of our<br>> > business, if we have to choose from the aforementioned list. Please see<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://americanapparel.net/contact/ourworkers.html">http://americanapparel.net/contact/ourworkers.html</a><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span>if you have further<br>> > interest and/or questions.<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > From the above URL:<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > "The average sewer with experience at American Apparel is making about<br>> > $25,000/yr (i.e. $12/hr, well over twice the federal minimum)"<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Hi,<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> As a counter point to the kindness of American Apparel:<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_26/b3939108_mz017.htm">http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_26/b3939108_mz017.htm</a><br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Best,<br>> Jake<br><br>Yeah, they probably all suck. But some suck way more than others, such as some of the black holes I found in China while searching for good places to manufacture over there. Some good ones do exist, but other than going there to check them out, I don't know how to find out who they are.<br> <br>Mitch.<br> <br>_______________________________________________<br>Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br></body></html>