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Hi J.D.,<BR>
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Thanks. Your input will be welcome.<BR>
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Non-members are always welcome at Noisebridge, especially if they are also excellent people! :)<BR>
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Thanks,<BR>
Mitch.<BR>
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CC: michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com; noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>From: zamfire@gmail.com<BR>To: maltman23@hotmail.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] FW: [Fwd: FW from Eva Meyers: ExCEL Request for Proposals 2009-2010]<BR>Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:59:37 -0700<BR><BR>Hi all,
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<DIV>I'd be interested to participate in this planning session - I've done a lot of teaching before, but never in this kind of environment, so I'm not sure how much I'd be able to contribute. I could make it at 6:30 tomorrow, but wouldn't want someone else to miss it on my account (see aforementioned caveat).</DIV>
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<DIV>Hoping this doesn't matter, but I'm not a noisebridge member (yet!) -- however I have been by 83c a few times at this point and you seem like excellent people!</DIV>
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<DIV>J.D.</DIV>
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<DIV>On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Mitch Altman wrote:</DIV><BR class=EC_Apple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV class=EC_hmmessage style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Yay!<BR> <BR> <BR>The "proposal" at this point is only a collection of thoughts. Do you have something more complete already? Should we (everyone interested in participating) get together to talk in person and put an outline together?<BR> <BR> <BR>I'm super busy getting four projects together this week (!) but my schedule is almost all flexible, and I can make time whenever is good for others.<BR> <BR> <BR>I'll make two suggestions for a time/place to get together:<BR> Monday (tomorrow) at 3pm at Noisebridge<BR> Monday (tomorrow) at 6:30pm at Noisebridge<BR>If anyone interested can/can't make either of the above, please say so and/or suggest another place/time.<BR> <BR> <BR>Best,<BR> <BR>Mitch.<BR> <BR> <BR><BR> <BR>-----------------------<BR> <BR>> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:28:01 -0700<BR>> From:<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com">michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</A><BR>> To:<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com">maltman23@hotmail.com</A><BR>> CC:<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="mailto:danielast@gmail.com">danielast@gmail.com</A>;<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</A><BR>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] FW: [Fwd: FW from Eva Meyers: ExCEL Request for Proposals 2009-2010]<BR>><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> Talked it over with my partner at TMTM, and we would love to<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> collaborate. Thanks for asking!<BR>><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> At what stage is the proposal?<BR>><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> Michael<BR>><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> Mitch Altman wrote:<BR>> > Yeah, Michael, if it's cool by you to collaborate, then I'd love to do<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > that. I enjoyed working together with you at ETech and at the school<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > with the MAKE Mobile. I'd like to do more. :)<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Let me know your thoughts.<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Best,<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Mitch.<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:23:56 -0700<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] FW: [Fwd: FW from Eva Meyers: ExCEL<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Request for Proposals 2009-2010]<BR>> > From:<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="mailto:danielast@gmail.com">danielast@gmail.com</A><BR>> > To:<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com">michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</A><BR>> > CC:<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com">maltman23@hotmail.com</A>;<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</A><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > I think that is great that you are able to collaborate! As I told<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Mitch, I wish I could do that too but I cannot work for free! I am happy<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > to give input and to have teaching discussions!<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > However my programs are very different than what you guys do, so i<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > don't think that duplication or cross overs is a problem in my case.<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > D<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Michael Shiloh<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > <<A href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com">michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</A> <<A href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com">mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</A>>> wrote:<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Mitch Altman wrote:<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > I wouldn't want you to unsubscribe, Michael.<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Thanks!<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Is there some way we can collaborate on what we're bidding?<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Yeah, I was wondering that myself. I guess my default behavior is to<BR>> > bother other people as little as possible, to see what they are<BR>> > doing, and then do something else.<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > We can either collaborate on the bid, or at the very least,<BR>> > coordinate our bids so that we avoid duplication.<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > I'm a little torn - since teaching is now my only income, I do feel<BR>> > a need to develop our own teaching reputation and to publicize the<BR>> > name of our organization (Teach me to make) as much as possible. On<BR>> > the other hand, by pooling our resources, we probably end up with a<BR>> > whole that is greater than the sum of the parts.<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > On the other-other hand, collaboration is ethically and socially of<BR>> > higher value. It's just the right thing to do. So I think I'd rather<BR>> > go this way.<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Let me think on this a minute to make sure I haven't overlooked<BR>> > anything.<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > Michael<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</A><BR>> > <<A href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</A>><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</A><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> ><SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > --<SPAN class=EC_Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>> > <A href="http://www.danielast.com/">www.danielast.com</A> <<A href="http://www.danielast.com/">http://www.danielast.com/</A>><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</A><BR><A href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</A><BR></DIV></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></body>
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