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I'm hoping to be at NB at 6pm for this, too.<BR>
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Thanks for the thoughtful comments, Josh.<BR>
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One thing I'd like to add to the list of possible things to talk about tonight is: should we have automatic de-member-ification for people who don't pay dues for X number of months, and who haven't responsded to emails or phone calls for Y number of months?<BR>
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Mitch.<BR>
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<BR>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:48:40 -0700<BR>> From: josh@joshisanerd.com<BR>> To: rachel@xtreme.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reminder: Membership team meeting tonight, 6PM<BR>> CC: noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>> <BR>> I'm going to try and make it, but will likely be late. I just wanted<BR>> to "phone it in" a bit, in case the dayjob doesn't resolve itself.<BR>> <BR>> One potential addition to the agenda: do we have a quorum for<BR>> concensus on membership decisions? That is: if we only have 3 people<BR>> there on Tuesday, can we roll in a new member?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> A few things that I would want to mention at the beginning of the<BR>> meeting, to lend it structure and generally focus things:<BR>> <BR>> * What are the goals of the meeting?<BR>> * What are the non-goals of the meeting?<BR>> * When is the next meeting?<BR>> <BR>> * What are the problems?<BR>> * Is the problem realistic, and do we have a "threat model" for it?<BR>> * For solutions, what are pros/cons? Do they address the problem?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Quick strawman proposals follow, hopefully to let people prepare<BR>> better for discussion.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:25:41AM -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:<BR>> > The membership team is meeting before the general meeting tonight, to<BR>> > discuss topics of Great Interest. Specifically:<BR>> > <BR>> > * the concept of a hiatus in membership, for people temporarily<BR>> > Elsewhere. What would it mean? How would it work?<BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> I don't have any real opinions here, but the natural thing is "You can<BR>> stop and start on month-aligned boundaries when you're out of the area<BR>> for the month." Beyond that, we're designing against people gaming<BR>> the system, and that's not really our concern: it falls under being<BR>> excellent, so we can simply lean on that with the next point in hand.<BR>> <BR>> > * forcible de-member-ification. With luck we will never need it, but<BR>> > we'd better have it ready if we do.<BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> Concensus-minus-one seems popular here, but I'd love to hear from<BR>> others' experiences in similar organizations. It seems to me that C-1<BR>> is overly conservative, in that you'll never get any but the worst<BR>> offenders de-member-ed. (and is this conservativeness a feature or a<BR>> problem?)<BR>> <BR>> This is a very important feature of our membership process, so we<BR>> probably want to do some homework before choosing one (or be willing<BR>> to change processes radically a few times; either approach gets the<BR>> right kind of result in the end).<BR>> <BR>> > * how's the current induction process working? Some people have<BR>> > suggested it's not working as well as we would like. Do we want to<BR>> > change it?<BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> I'd love to keep the binder system, but for people to be "immediately"<BR>> up for membership, with the typical case being "Who blocks John's<BR>> membership because they don't know him?" and most of the membership<BR>> raising their hands. This handles both the Slim case (has been<BR>> around, but not jumped through our hoops), and the G Carter Stokum<BR>> case (nobody wants him as a member, even though he's been there<BR>> forever). It also institutionalizes the whole "Get to know a lot of<BR>> people and do cool stuff" ethos that seems to motivate our waiting<BR>> period. People would be in the room for the check of "Don't know<BR>> them", then leave for the proper discussion. This lets them know who<BR>> to meet, but still let them see how concensus works afterwards.<BR>> <BR>> Almost, but not quite, looking forward to this meeting =)<BR>> -- <BR>> Josh Myer 650.248.3796<BR>> josh@joshisanerd.com<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<BR>> Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss<BR></body>
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