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This is a no-brainer, as far as I'm concerned. We can sell as many as we can buy. I'm into chipping in.<BR>
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I know the 2600 people who are already set up as distributors: Mike Castleman and Emmanuel Goldstien. They are fine adding our bottles to any shipment they do. I'm sure they are also fine if we can get it cheaper on our own.<BR>
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From: lee@lee.org<BR>To: noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:34:09 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Club Mate shipment<BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN class=EC_890021717-10062009>Apparently 2600 in NY is importing as well. Maybe working with them is the thing.... or not.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN class=EC_890021717-10062009>I'm interested (mostly because I see dollar signs) but distribution and promotion can be tough, even with something as cool as Club Mate. I'd be willing to go in with another entrepreneur.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> noisebridge-discuss-bounces@lists.noisebridge.net [mailto:noisebridge-discuss-bounces@lists.noisebridge.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mitch Altman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 0x31337@gmail.com; crypto.rpw@gmail.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> sean@cheesebikini.com; NoiseBridge Discuss<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Club Mate shipment<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Is there still interest in getting Club Mate shipped to us? If $2 per bottle is really what we can get it at (landed at Noisebridge) if we buy a container-full, then we can make a lot of money selling them for $4 per bottle, and make lots of people very happy in the process.<BR> <BR> <BR>Mitch.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>--------------------------<BR> <BR>> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:57:48 -0700<BR>> From: 0x31337@gmail.com<BR>> To: crypto.rpw@gmail.com<BR>> CC: sean@cheesebikini.com; noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Re: Club Mate shipment<BR>> <BR>> FYI, Emmanuel said he could get us a pallet for ~$2k (800 bottles),<BR>> does this seem inline with the pricing you guys have been looking at?<BR>> How many bottles would we have to buy to get better pricing?<BR>> <BR>> -David<BR>> <BR>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Ralf-Philipp Weinmann<BR>> <crypto.rpw@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>> > Hi David, dear Noisebridgers,<BR>> ><BR>> > a) there are two types of ISO 668 freight containers: the so-called<BR>> > TEU (twenty feet equivalent unit) and the FEU (forty feet equivalent<BR>> > unit) variant. The TEU variant measures 20ft x 8ft x 8.5ft (L x W x H)<BR>> > and may load up to 21.75 tons, the FEU variant is twice as long and<BR>> > may load up to 26.7 tons. A problem is that the container height is<BR>> > not standardized, sometimes it can be as low as 1.3m, the maximum is<BR>> > 2.6m.<BR>> ><BR>> > b) one bottle of Club Mate (there are two variants, the 0.5l bottle<BR>> > and the 0.33l bottle, I'll be assuming the larger variant for the<BR>> > moment) weighs approximately 904 grams. Thus far I was not able to<BR>> > convince Loscher to fill the Mate into lighter PET bottles.<BR>> ><BR>> > c) I have not actually seen the pallets, but the dimension of a pallet<BR>> > should be approximately the same as for a crate of Club Mate. This is<BR>> > 40cm x 30cm x 30cm.<BR>> ><BR>> > c) Let's assume an overhead of 25kg per pallet.<BR>> ><BR>> > Assuming the above, we are more constrained by volume than by the<BR>> > weight if the container is half-height and the other way round if we<BR>> > have 2.6m height in the container. We can pack 14-16 pallets per TEU<BR>> > if we assume half-height and at most 28 if it is full height (because<BR>> > of weight). This also means that going FEU is pointless.<BR>> ><BR>> > Hence a TEU will fit at least 11200 bottles but may hold up to 22400<BR>> > if we're lucky. I reckon 11k bottles should be more than enough for<BR>> > the first run, though. Assuming the fixed cost of USD 2900 we're<BR>> > getting a fixed-cost transportation overhead of USD 0.29 per bottle if<BR>> > we fill the container with 14 pallets.<BR>> ><BR>> > Thoughts, orders?<BR>> ><BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > RPW<BR>> ><BR>> > --<BR>> > Ralf-Philipp Weinmann<BR>> > CryptoLUX / Laboratory of Algorithmics and Computer Security, FSTC<BR>> > University of Luxembourg<BR>> > phone: +352-466645654<BR>> ><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<BR>> Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss<BR></body>
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