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class=890021717-10062009>Apparently 2600 in NY is importing as well. Maybe
working with them is the thing.... or not.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890021717-10062009>I'm interested (mostly because I see dollar signs) but
distribution and promotion can be tough, even with something as cool as Club
Mate. I'd be willing to go in with another entrepreneur.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> noisebridge-discuss-bounces@lists.noisebridge.net
[mailto:noisebridge-discuss-bounces@lists.noisebridge.net] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Mitch Altman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
0x31337@gmail.com; crypto.rpw@gmail.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> sean@cheesebikini.com;
NoiseBridge Discuss<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Club Mate
shipment<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Is there still interest in getting Club Mate shipped to
us? If $2 per bottle is really what we can get it at (landed at
Noisebridge) if we buy a container-full, then we can make a lot of money selling
them for $4 per bottle, and make lots of people very happy in the
process.<BR> <BR> <BR>Mitch.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>--------------------------<BR> <BR>>
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:57:48 -0700<BR>> From: 0x31337@gmail.com<BR>> To:
crypto.rpw@gmail.com<BR>> CC: sean@cheesebikini.com;
noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss]
Re: Club Mate shipment<BR>> <BR>> FYI, Emmanuel said he could get us a
pallet for ~$2k (800 bottles),<BR>> does this seem inline with the pricing
you guys have been looking at?<BR>> How many bottles would we have to buy to
get better pricing?<BR>> <BR>> -David<BR>> <BR>> On Wed, Apr 29,
2009 at 5:29 AM, Ralf-Philipp Weinmann<BR>> <crypto.rpw@gmail.com>
wrote:<BR>> > Hi David, dear Noisebridgers,<BR>> ><BR>> > a)
there are two types of ISO 668 freight containers: the so-called<BR>> >
TEU (twenty feet equivalent unit) and the FEU (forty feet equivalent<BR>>
> unit) variant. The TEU variant measures 20ft x 8ft x 8.5ft (L x W x
H)<BR>> > and may load up to 21.75 tons, the FEU variant is twice as long
and<BR>> > may load up to 26.7 tons. A problem is that the container
height is<BR>> > not standardized, sometimes it can be as low as 1.3m, the
maximum is<BR>> > 2.6m.<BR>> ><BR>> > b) one bottle of Club
Mate (there are two variants, the 0.5l bottle<BR>> > and the 0.33l bottle,
I'll be assuming the larger variant for the<BR>> > moment) weighs
approximately 904 grams. Thus far I was not able to<BR>> > convince
Loscher to fill the Mate into lighter PET bottles.<BR>> ><BR>> > c)
I have not actually seen the pallets, but the dimension of a pallet<BR>> >
should be approximately the same as for a crate of Club Mate. This is<BR>>
> 40cm x 30cm x 30cm.<BR>> ><BR>> > c) Let's assume an overhead
of 25kg per pallet.<BR>> ><BR>> > Assuming the above, we are more
constrained by volume than by the<BR>> > weight if the container is
half-height and the other way round if we<BR>> > have 2.6m height in the
container. We can pack 14-16 pallets per TEU<BR>> > if we assume
half-height and at most 28 if it is full height (because<BR>> > of
weight). This also means that going FEU is pointless.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Hence a TEU will fit at least 11200 bottles but may hold up to 22400<BR>>
> if we're lucky. I reckon 11k bottles should be more than enough for<BR>>
> the first run, though. Assuming the fixed cost of USD 2900 we're<BR>>
> getting a fixed-cost transportation overhead of USD 0.29 per bottle
if<BR>> > we fill the container with 14 pallets.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Thoughts, orders?<BR>> ><BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > RPW<BR>>
><BR>> > --<BR>> > Ralf-Philipp Weinmann<BR>> > CryptoLUX /
Laboratory of Algorithmics and Computer Security, FSTC<BR>> > University
of Luxembourg<BR>> > phone: +352-466645654<BR>> ><BR>>
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