Wow, this sounds like an argument I've had before... Now, I can understand a concern for people wandering off with our equipment. I can also see a concern for things hosted in Jesus' space becoming inaccessible if he gets all upset and wants to take his toys and go.<br>
<br>But I'm hearing the exact same arguments for keeping the servers in the space that people made arguments against using colo facilities in the past. I suppose the "what if I screw it up so bad I need to go touch it" point is valid if we have no access to the space where our servers are located, but gee, the benefits so outweigh this. The rest is really an emotional response if you think about it. Being able to look at a server and say "this is mine" is not any benefit at all. It's really strange to be hearing these arguments come up after all this time.<br>
<br>Ideally, we would have a cage or colo space somewhere where all the noisebridge sysops could have the access and could go reboot if absolutely necessary. Maintaining control is probably necessary in order to assert ownership. Businesses have been using colo facilities for years. What makes us special?<br>
<br>But if we get 4 full racks of servers in the space, I do believe we won't ever have to worry about heating the space again. Although August will be a bitch.<br><br>Christie<br><br clear="all">--- <br> Disrupting paradigms since 1967<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jacob@appelbaum.net">jacob@appelbaum.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">Dr. Jesus wrote:<br>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Al Billings<<a href="mailto:albill@openbuddha.com">albill@openbuddha.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I sense an item for the meeting agenda.<br>
><br>
> Added.<br>
<br>
</div>You guys realize that it's OK to accept donations and _also_ let them<br>
sit for a bit until we actually need the machines, right?<br>
<br>
In general, people shouldn't take donated machines out of the space but<br>
if we needed them up and running (other than for the sake of rackin'<br>
em), it seems reasonable to have Jesus host them.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Jake<br>
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