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I also have concerns about budget. At the moment we do not have enough money in the bank to go forward with a move to 2169 Mission that includes the required build-up. We will need to do some fund-raising. How much fund-raising depends on a budget. If a few people can get together and create a realistic (as best as possible) budget, then we can raise the required funds.<BR>
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At the moment we have $21,000 in the bank.<BR>
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Any fund-raising will need to keep in mind that we need to have 3 months of operating expenses in the bank. Currently (at 83C Wiese, with $1975/mo rent) our operating expenses have averaged $3900/month.<BR>
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------------------------<BR> <BR>> From: matt@peterson.org<BR>> To: adi@hexapodia.org<BR>> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:41:07 -0700<BR>> CC: noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] 2169 Mission status<BR>> <BR>> Ok, my big concern is the budget. I hate to come across as the party <BR>> pooper here. It's well known that house remodels and upgrades run <BR>> over budget, particularly for newbies in this realm - I could only <BR>> imagine commercial refurbs requiring even more knowledge. Do we have <BR>> members or friends with intimate knowledge of the permitting process, <BR>> contractor negotiation, parts sourcing, etc (ideally ones willing to <BR>> step up and lead this)? Sai had valid points in this realm at the <BR>> last meeting, however the overall excitement overruled him repeatedly <BR>> from diving into this.<BR>> <BR>> I plan to block unless a detailed budget is published and agreed <BR>> upon. Our treasurer should be presenting data that shows our / <BR>> existing/ membership base allows us to afford this space for some time <BR>> PLUS additional surplus from the recent fundraising round. Let's get <BR>> actual quotes from contractors. Hand waving and "just trust us" isn't <BR>> going to fly.<BR>> <BR>> In terms of the funds earmarked for the new space, to what extent do <BR>> we limit purchases and upgrades? I see the most critical items being: <BR>> bathroom(s)/shower, electrical, walls, kitchen and other common shared <BR>> infrastructure. These are meant to meet ADA, building code <BR>> worthiness, general safety and comfort requirements. What happens <BR>> when funds are spent, on say on a meat-only storage freezer, color <BR>> photo processing equipment or an industrial CNC machines (all <BR>> hypothetical examples) - yielding gear that isn't "new space" <BR>> specific; are funders Ok with these type of purchases?<BR>> <BR>> Again, not trying to come off as the nay-sayer here but we're flying <BR>> blind from what I can gather currently. I'm very excited about the <BR>> new space itself, the breathing room we'll have and fun network <BR>> upgrades that will follow. Let's just be up front and realistic about <BR>> the costs.<BR>> <BR>> --Matt<BR>> <BR>> On Jul 19, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Andy Isaacson wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > The landlords apparently aren't interested in doing any work up-front,<BR>> > so we'd be doing any work on our own dime and on our own time. We<BR>> > requested that they replace the smaller (front) bathroom with a larger<BR>> > bathroom (leaving the current rear bathroom in its current state) and<BR>> > they declined.<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<BR>> Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<BR>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss<BR></body>
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