I don't think anyone yet has mentioned the amount of space we have as a constraint. I'm very much with you on concerns about "spending money to make money." Sunday we'll sit down and figure out what a budget would look like and how and if we can do this thing. I must confess that I'm not as optimistic as I was before San dropped out, since for him it was in fact a labor of love.<br>
<br>I am curious how much we made on the "donation only" open bar we had the other night.<br><br>Christie<br><br clear="all">--- <br>Pigs can fly given sufficient thrust. <br> - RFC 1925<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:14 PM, grey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:artkiver@gmail.com">artkiver@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Just to chime in and since I'll be at Symbiosis on Sunday and won't be able to attending any meeting on this subject. I'd echo what someone else here mentioned. One of the original goals of Noisebridge before we even had a space was to have a space in which -throw- fund raising parties, following e.g. C-Base or metalab's models. It seems that we finally have some room for it at 2169, and we're already *paying* for it as opposed to potential costs in renting other venues. I know Cellspace has been mentioned repeatedly in the past, but the goal of finding an outside space to do it was before we even had a lease signed for anything but 83c.<div>
<br></div><div>The logistics of organizing are a complicated business regardless of the location, and I'm happy to help with setup/teardown/etc. But I will say that I've put on events at spaces smaller than 2169 (and probably even smaller 83c a few times). Really depends what you're aiming for. But if you take the space we have as a constraint, it's totally doable. Maybe our existing sound system is wanting, but I can bring my CDJ's and ttm57sl and I'm sure I could convince at least one of several friends who have better speakers/subs/etc. gear to bring it by for an evening.<div>
<br></div><div>Again though, certain things say C-base does (e.g. use of lockers by members) facilitate themselves better to lots of guests for such an evening. With 83c we just went with shelving, but I see no reason why we can't evolve in many more directions beyond just having a new larger physical location. Whether it's better protection for membership equipment for those who think it's necessary or better equipment to facilitate social gatherings.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I repeatedly see people on this list fretting about what people *might* do to damage things, or earlier in this thread mention displeasure about what they witnessed someone doing. Haven't we already drilled the mantra of not solving problems before they arise through everyone's head? And if there is a problem - empower yourselves people! Preventative measures are one thing, but can only go so far. When it comes down to it if you see someone doing something that you think is doing harm, step in and -do- something about it!</div>
<div><br></div><div>Anyway, I'm all in favour of fundraising parties; it's something we'd intended before we even had a name for noisebridge. It's my preference that we host them ourselves now that it seems more likely that we can, but barring that, definitely cooperating with others rather than expending money to throw an event is the way to go. I've seen far too many friends lose swaths of money in throwing events, which for them was fine as a labor of love. But in this case it's a labor of utility, and there are ways to exhibit shrewd financial acumen and still engender community and cooperation.</div>
<div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>-grey</div></font></div>
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