You know? I think this discussion has changed my mind.<br><br>Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the way I see it:<br><br>What you're proposing is a limited time workshop project, much like the workshop Chris Paget ran a while back for the RFID stuff, bringing his own equipment. Due to the constraints of the system, it necessarily will need to remain in the space for an extended period. The question thus becomes will this impinge upon disinterested members space or projects (as the DIYBio fridge obviously did). I think at this point we might have enough unallocated space to house it. I have no doubt the interested parties would be certain they aren't in anyone else's way with it.<br>
<br>I'm willing to wager that the EFF has taken out insurance on this thing. I think it'd be prudent to check to be sure that insurance would cover it while it's in our space. I'd really hate to be the ignoble fools who borrowed such a prestigious machine only to destroy it by rats gnawing on it.<br>
<br>If there are legal ramifications for non-citizens to be exposed to this, either for the foreign nationals or those who are responsible for the system, then I'm willing to wager we'd have the owners of the machine, the EFF, on our side ready to defend it. (Who incidentally are possibly the most qualified lawyers in the country to defend such things.) That being said, I would expect any necessary clear and explicit instructions for our non-citizen members would be available so we don't have any challenges. Would I be mistaken in this assumption?<br>
<br>That said, I see no reason not to move forward with this.<br><br>Christie<br clear="all">--- <br>Pigs can fly given sufficient thrust. <br> - RFC 1925<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mik@stanford.edu">mik@stanford.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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> Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson wrote:<br>
>>> On Oct 7, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:<br>
>>> That was the first posting in months but not the first discussion<br>
>>> of the<br>
>>> device in the space. I have emailed the EFF. I will respect and<br>
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>>> their answer to the group.<br>
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>> I've been back in the Bay area for just under 2 weeks. :-D<br>
>> This is the first I myself have heard about it.<br>
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> I am referring to a meeting at 83C some time ago.<br>
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</div>Indeed. And 2 weeks ago was the first time since late March I was back<br>
in the Bay. I've been out of the loop. :-)<br>
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