Hear here!<br><br>It is often said that the best governances are the least efficient.� No one can argue that what transpires on the list is any model of efficiency.� But cool stuff does come about, and (hopefully) we only need to work these things out once.� Some facets of this I see:<br>
<br>- Sometimes people's solutions seem like good ideas but are ultimately unworkable.� If we don't talk through them, we wind up with solutions, then solutions to those solutions and people badgering each other for not playing along when those solutions don't work.� It's much easier to talk through things than to have to live through them.<br>
<br>- People who are previously unaware of problems can be made aware.� Some may even have more useful viewpoints than those in the thick of things.� Think "10,000 ft. view".<br><br>- (Hopefully) people will become less attached to their pet solution, so as to be able to modify it to better suit the group.<br>
<br>Christie<br clear="all">--- <br>Pigs can fly given sufficient thrust. <br> � � - RFC 1925<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM, jim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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� seems to me valuable to point out that discussion on<br>
the mailing list works. the thread goes through changes,<br>
takes on various casts including depression, anger,<br>
dispair..., yet with the effect of amalgamating concrete<br>
suggestions that at some point become a guide to action.<br>
<br>
� for example, zedd got the inspiration to stack some<br>
of the small tables on each other to make improvised<br>
shelves. this solved the problem of where to put stuff,<br>
and therefore a group of us then could (and did) clean<br>
out all the crap in the middle classroom.<br>
� not only do we have a brand new useable classroom, we<br>
also have impetus started up again:<br>
* library shelves seem in progress<br>
* stuff from the classroom is classified in large and<br>
there are those who are now sorting the hackable stuff<br>
and reclassifying some as e-waste.<br>
* there's a garbage run today.<br>
* there is an experimental effort to reduce the most<br>
common clutter problem: left-over partially filled drink<br>
containers.<br>
<br>
� i think we sometimes expect too much efficiency from<br>
our mailing list. given the world we live in, how did<br>
we get such ideas?<br>
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