I'm curious but once the door bell is fixed what's the use of these virtual keys? why not ask a friend with a physical key for a copy or make sure when you leave the space you don't leave your stuff behind if you plan to be gone long enough that by the time you get back everyone might have left? I think we need to draw a line somewhere between people having free access to the space when it's empty and where we stand on security for the building as a whole. Surely there's a reason why we don't simply prop the door open all the time and forgo the whole key issue altogether. even if bums weren't an issue there's gotta be other reasons. i think, at the very least, if there's to be some kind of 'coat check' tag we let people take so they can get back in without a key that it have a time limit on it before it doesn't work anymore and you gotta get someone to let you back in before it resets. surely someone going out for taco's can work within a widow of about an hour, two tops.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Blaine Forbort <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.forbort@gmail.com">b.forbort@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I dunno, maybe there are Bombbridge meetings that aren't on the Wiki. =D<br><br>Anyway, there ARE RFID tags available that allow you to program the serial number portion of the memory. The Q5 comes to mind. It's the preferred choice for emulating EM4x02 chips (i.e. VeriChip). It would be possible to program dozens of cards with the exact same serial number. The Q5 is also available in a variety of of packages, including key fobs and Bio-glass implants.<br>
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<br>Blaine</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Jon Mills <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonsaves@me.com" target="_blank">jonsaves@me.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Is it possible to use the same serial number for all the rfid's? That would eliminate the issue wouldn't it?</div><div><br></div><div>Or, a non-logging service that doesn't keep track of who owns the RFID's... Makes sense to me..</div>
<div><br></div><div>I don't see the big issue.. I mean, I'm sure a video camera out the 2nd floor window would be a lot more invasive. (and exactly what anyone would do if they cared who was coming in and out)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Is someone worried about their actions at noisebridge being turned into a felony conviction? Lol</div><div><br><font color="#888888">-Jon</font></div><div><div></div><div><div><br>On Feb 6, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Blaine Forbort <<a href="mailto:b.forbort@gmail.com" target="_blank">b.forbort@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>ok, so it seems like some individuals are REALLY against the RFID idea. Personally, I'm not really sure how a serial number and an approved serial number list equates to tracking your every move. Especially if you don't keep a list of who has what serial number, or don't bother to make your RFID reader keep log information. As far as someone scanning your card from across the street, why would someone go through the trouble of using such a sophisticated attack, when they can just point a camera out a window and see your face?<br>
<br>So here's another idea: how about we hook up the VoIP system to allow us to activate the gate with our cellphones. You could call the noisebridge VoIP line and punch in an extension number that would activate a relay and open the gate.<br>
<br>Simple solution that would prevent anyone from having to wait 10 minutes to get inside again.<br><br>Blaine<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Jeff Younker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeff@drinktomi.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jeff@drinktomi.com" target="_blank">jeff@drinktomi.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Why don't we just give everybody bullhorns so they can scream up,<br>
"Will somebody please open the door for me?"<br>
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