could you please provide the source of these requirements?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Hephaestus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hephaestus@antipunk.net">hephaestus@antipunk.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">To set up a table requires a $60 temporary occupancy permit from the<br>
DPW, $1,000,000 of liability insurance, and permission from the owners<br>
of any businesses to which it would be adjacent. If we don't set up a<br>
table, we can do it for free with less liability, and more police<br>
protection, as it can be presented as a 'protest'.<br>
<br>
--<br>
<font color="#888888">Hephaestus<br>
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On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Ever Falling <<a href="mailto:everfalling@gmail.com">everfalling@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> is there a reason why a table can't be set up? as long as we're not selling<br>
> anything and we're not blocking foot traffic i don't see the problem.<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:03 PM, doctor popular <<a href="mailto:yoyogenius@gmail.com">yoyogenius@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> One other note from the meeting that I think is worth mentioning is<br>
>> that all signs and displays have to be held by the volunteers. So that<br>
>> means that no tables or self supporting displays.<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Hephaestus <<a href="mailto:hephaestus@antipunk.net">hephaestus@antipunk.net</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > There was a meeting, it went well, and the discussion in the space<br>
>> > picked up a few people who hadn't already heard about the Science<br>
>> > Fair. The general consensus was that we don't necessarily want to<br>
>> > antagonize the juggalos, as this will give them even more reason to<br>
>> > hate rational thought, we just want to try to educate them.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > It was brought up that ICP has since stated that they understand the<br>
>> > things from the song are not 'miracles' in the definitive sense, but<br>
>> > are just wondrous things to observe, so any argument that "the<br>
>> > pyramids aren't miracles" would be counterproductive, and instead we<br>
>> > should focus on topics like "here's how the pyramids were built, isn't<br>
>> > engineering awesome?" We have scientists for at least the following:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Fire<br>
>> > Magnets<br>
>> > Rainbows<br>
>> > Cognitive Dissonance<br>
>> > The Genetics of Long Necked Giraffes<br>
>> ><br>
>> > and we have more people interested who haven't yet called dibs on a<br>
>> > subject.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > We're going to show up Saturday at 4pm to make our science fair<br>
>> > posters and prepare, then leave around 5:30 to get on BART and head<br>
>> > down to the Warfield until it gets boring/dangerous, and then head<br>
>> > back to NB to get drunk, post the videos to youtube, and revel in our<br>
>> > success.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Hephaestus<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Ever Falling <<a href="mailto:everfalling@gmail.com">everfalling@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >> wasn't there a meeting tonight? how'd that go? are details gonna be on<br>
>> >> the<br>
>> >> wiki or are they already?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Corey McGuire <<a href="mailto:coreyfro@coreyfro.com">coreyfro@coreyfro.com</a>><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> This is exactly why I don't debate anyone studied enough to be adept<br>
>> >>> at<br>
>> >>> debating, yet incapable of doing the basic research to understand<br>
>> >>> concepts<br>
>> >>> like evolution or climate change.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> For instance: Kirk Cameron is a very skilled debater. He's obviously<br>
>> >>> received training and spent many hours composing the arguments to be<br>
>> >>> used<br>
>> >>> against people who support the theory of evolution. I've watched him<br>
>> >>> go toe<br>
>> >>> to toe at debates on his home turf, obviously entrapping the people<br>
>> >>> he's<br>
>> >>> debating. These are obvious and intricate traps. This man has made<br>
>> >>> it his<br>
>> >>> life's WORK getting scientists to generate media buzz for him and he<br>
>> >>> doesn't<br>
>> >>> intend on backing down...<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> ...yet he can't take a 10 minute journey though the Magical Land of<br>
>> >>> Google<br>
>> >>> to figure out why the "Croc-a-duck" argument is fucking retarded.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> They aren't looking to be right, they are looking for attention. ICP,<br>
>> >>> for<br>
>> >>> record sales, Kirk Cameron, probably for political ambitions.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> But I think everyone here should have fun. You know you are<br>
>> >>> generating<br>
>> >>> more media buzz for ICP, but you are also going to have a wicked time,<br>
>> >>> get<br>
>> >>> your own slice of attention, and hopefully get Noisebridge a bunch,<br>
>> >>> too.<br>
>> >>> Probably from the choir you are preaching to, probably a choir that<br>
>> >>> would<br>
>> >>> love to learn about and maybe even join or emulate Noisebridge.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Don't forget the body armor.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Rev. Dan <<a href="mailto:doktahworm@gmail.com">doktahworm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Has anyone considered the fact that more effort has been spent<br>
>> >>>> discussing this that will likely be spent thinking, at all, by folks<br>
>> >>>> who reject science in favor of willfull ignorance?<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> I think the only real evangelism that can/ could happen would<br>
>> >>>> essentially just be preaching to the choir. It sounds like this<br>
>> >>>> could<br>
>> >>>> be fun for its own sake; but having expectations beyond dressing up<br>
>> >>>> and having a good time might be not be all that reasonable.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> I'd be willing to wager that ICP wrote the song to be gratuitously<br>
>> >>>> controversial (ala GG Allin) and might well find the whole thing to<br>
>> >>>> be<br>
>> >>>> entertaining. (OMG, look at these "smart" people pissing themselves<br>
>> >>>> 'cause of our stupid song... bwuahahah... Woot, free publicity!)<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> You can lead a horse to water, but you can't convince him to do<br>
>> >>>> algebra.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> - Dan<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Jesse Zbikowski<br>
>> >>>> <<a href="mailto:embeddedlinuxguy@gmail.com">embeddedlinuxguy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> > You might consider dressing as a wizard, because rainbows and<br>
>> >>>> > magnets<br>
>> >>>> > are surely, in addition to their well known physical properties,<br>
>> >>>> > also<br>
>> >>>> > magic.<br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> > Science is at least as much about an awe of the mystery of the<br>
>> >>>> > universe as it is about learning explanations from other people.<br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> > It might be more effective in evoking scientific curiosity to show<br>
>> >>>> > off<br>
>> >>>> > some cool magnet and rainbow effects, without any explanation.<br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Don French <<a href="mailto:dcfrench@gmail.com">dcfrench@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >>>> > wrote:<br>
>> >>>> >> Meant to send this to the list.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> -- Don<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Also worth watching:<br>
>> >>>> >> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGy64NJWotg&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGy64NJWotg&feature=related</a><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> -- Don<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Douglas Worley<br>
>> >>>> >> <<a href="mailto:daworley@gmail.com">daworley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>> >>><br>
>> >>>> >>> For reference:<br>
>> >>>> >>><br>
>> >>>> >>> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs&feature=youtube_gdata" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs&feature=youtube_gdata</a><br>
>> >>>> >>><br>
>> >>>> >>> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi08uLTOGxs&feature=youtube_gdata" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi08uLTOGxs&feature=youtube_gdata</a><br>
>> >>>> >>><br>
>> >>>> >>> Cheers,<br>
>> >>>> >>> - Dougie<br>
>> >>>> >>><br>
>> >>>> >>> Sent from my tricorder.<br>
>> >>>> >>><br>
>> >>>> >>> On May 28, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Hephaestus<br>
>> >>>> >>> <<a href="mailto:hephaestus@antipunk.net">hephaestus@antipunk.net</a>><br>
>> >>>> >>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>> >>><br>
>> >>>> >>>> Next Saturday, June 5th, is the ICP concert at the Warfield<br>
>> >>>> >>>> Theater on<br>
>> >>>> >>>> Market St.<br>
>> >>>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> >>>> That evening, between 6-9pm as the juggalos are gathering, but<br>
>> >>>> >>>> hopefully not too drunk and angry yet, we'll be setting up a<br>
>> >>>> >>>> science<br>
>> >>>> >>>> fair to teach them how magnets, rainbows, and giraffes work. If<br>
>> >>>> >>>> you'd<br>
>> >>>> >>>> like to help with this science fair, please come to NB next<br>
>> >>>> >>>> Saturday<br>
>> >>>> >>>> at 5pm with a science fair project (that's either cheap or not<br>
>> >>>> >>>> easily<br>
>> >>>> >>>> broken). The theme of your project should reflect one of the<br>
>> >>>> >>>> 'miracles' in the latest ICP music video.<br>
>> >>>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> >>>> Even if you don't want to demonstrate magnetism to juggalos, you<br>
>> >>>> >>>> can<br>
>> >>>> >>>> still participate, as we will need security and a camera crew to<br>
>> >>>> >>>> document the project.<br>
>> >>>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> >>>> --<br>
>> >>>> >>>> Hephaestus<br>
>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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> existence.<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Trying to fix or change something, only guarantees and perpetuates its existence.<br>