Are we actually in the red?<br><br>There's a big difference between not having a few months wiggleroom, and having our checks bounce.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Rachel McConnell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rachel@xtreme.com">rachel@xtreme.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">oooh I had no idea! yeah i'll get in touch with them right away. i did<br>
search various open source repos and found nothing useful...<br>
<div class="im"><br>
Christie Dudley wrote:<br>
> Katie from Hacker Dojo was mentioning they'd put together a complete<br>
> open source package for managing things, including payment tracking and<br>
> so forth that they're interested in sharing. It might not be a bad<br>
> idea, and foster a bit of goodwill if we at least had a look at that,<br>
> don't you think?<br>
><br>
> The problem may already be solved for us.<br>
><br>
> Christie<br>
> _______<br>
> "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities.<br>
> The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit<br>
> to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his<br>
> intelligence." -- Albert Einstein<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Rachel McConnell <<a href="mailto:rachel@xtreme.com">rachel@xtreme.com</a><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rachel@xtreme.com">rachel@xtreme.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> It's all done by hand right now, there's no automation. I mean the bank<br>
> account (and paypal, etc) tracks that $X has shown up, but there isn't<br>
> any system to associate it with a particular member. Sometimes a<br>
> payment comes with a note; if it's a check you have to go look at the<br>
> name on the check, etc.<br>
><br>
> jim wrote:<br>
> > Y'all have reminded me of payment, so there must<br>
> > be some tracking in place, yes?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 10:29 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:<br>
> >> I like this in theory but in practice it would be folly to officially<br>
> >> promote it until we have an accounting system that can support it.<br>
> >> Already we don't know who is paid up and who isn't; work is<br>
> underway on<br>
> >> a system to manage this but let's get it working first before we make<br>
> >> massive changes to it.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Rachel<br>
> >><br>
> >> jim wrote:<br>
> >>> (seems like a discussion of policy.)<br>
> >>> per the proposal and the points:<br>
> >>> * how much to discount for a one year pre-payment seems<br>
> >>> the difficult part: too little and no one goes for it;<br>
> >>> too big and we miss out on possible income; variable<br>
> >>> (maybe within some limits, hoping for generosity) may<br>
> >>> work....<br>
> >>> * if we don't have a "real accounting system", as long<br>
> >>> as we can track payments with respect to members, this<br>
> >>> seems a non-issue. for example, i pay by the quarter<br>
> >>> and haven't had any problems. if a payment is recorded<br>
> >>> as income for the current month, is there a tax<br>
> >>> implication?<br>
> >>> * we should certainly try to help our current cash<br>
> >>> crunch"; the overall downward trend scares me.<br>
> >>> * grabbing a year's supply of money may help the<br>
> >>> initially excited retain their interest over a longer<br>
> >>> time period, which seems an additional value.<br>
> >>> * i'm not convinced of your arithmetic, but certainly<br>
> >>> money today is worth a fair amount more than money<br>
> >>> some later day, especially if there's some question<br>
> >>> about getting money on those later days. a real<br>
> >>> answer to this might help settle the discount problem.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 09:49 -0700, Shannon Lee wrote:<br>
> >>>> Hi All,<br>
> >>>> This idea has been brought up at several meetings now and no<br>
> >>>> satisfactory resolution reached, so obviously it's time to<br>
> expand the<br>
> >>>> conversation!<br>
> >>>> The specific proposal brought up last night was this:<br>
> >>>> If you pay your dues a year at a time, you can knock $20 off.<br>
> Or one<br>
> >>>> month's dues off. Or some amount of money.<br>
> >>>> Many perspectives were voiced on this. I think it's a good idea;<br>
> >>>> others disagreed, primarily because, as we do not have a real<br>
> >>>> accounting system, this amounts to counting a year's dues as this<br>
> >>>> month's revenue.<br>
> >>>> Again, I think this is a good idea, for the following reasons:<br>
> >>>> * it could help with our current cash cruch<br>
> >>>> * it means that people who get very excited about noisebridge<br>
> for just<br>
> >>>> long enough to be members and then never show up again have the<br>
> >>>> opportunity to pay a whole year's membership upfront<br>
> >>>> * the economic value of a bird in one's hand is double that of<br>
> a bird<br>
> >>>> in a bush<br>
> >>>> Thoughts?<br>
> >>>> --<br>
> >>>> Shannon Lee<br>
> >>>> (503) 539-3700<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from<br>
> science."<br>
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