I also have a little hand random orbital sander with a bag. I also have a detail sander for those who are very detail-oriented (a term I prefer over "pedantic") that'll get into even the tightest corners. (I got it for refinishing my staircase, which had a great deal of corners.) I don't know what needs to be sanded, so I'm not sure if it'll be useful or not.<div>
<br></div><div>I'll try to pop by soon - maybe Wednesday? to see what I can do.</div><div><br><div>Christie<br clear="all">_______<br>"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:57 AM, jim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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i have a little hand orbital sander with a little<br>
vacuum bag as well as a disk grinder with no vacuum<br>
bag. i don't think hand-sanders put out as much dust<br>
as the floor sanders, so vacuum attachments aren't<br>
important. Note that the "good" vacuum (not the<br>
crappy shop vac) has a fitting that hooks up to hand<br>
tools, tho' likely the hand tools must have a<br>
compliant fitting and there's the question of a hose<br>
(do we have one in the dirty shop?).<br>
i have a pole sander and a block hand sander.<br>
these take more muscle, but they might work.<br>
there's the question of sand paper: i'm guessing<br>
that 50 grit is right for the first pass, maybe 40,<br>
probably not 36; for the first pass 60 might be a<br>
little too fine, i.e. take too much work and time to<br>
bring things level. 60 grit is probably right for a<br>
second pass. normally floors are finished with 80<br>
grit or finer, but i think 60 will be okay for<br>
finish.<br>
i have some sandpaper, don't know how much,<br>
certainly not enough 40-50 to do the whole floor.<br>
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a reminder of build-out policy, at least as i<br>
understand it: people can bring their personal tools<br>
and stash them at NB with the expectation that no<br>
one will use them without owner's permission; the<br>
condition is that the owner somehow labels the tools.<br>
we're still in build-out mode. i'd like to see<br>
a change: all the materials and tools in the main<br>
walkway by the cooking area could be moved into the<br>
two rooms still under construction. i'm guessing<br>
the stuff was moved out of there to the main<br>
walkway so's to work on the walls in the rooms; if<br>
so, maybe we can supercharge that effort as we did<br>
the floors at least so's to get enough done that<br>
what remains to do is only "spot" sections.<br>
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On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 22:56 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:<br>
> Thanks Jim and Frantisek, you have done awesome work! Much appreciated!<br>
><br>
> Current update: puttying is done except for a few places that were deep<br>
> and need another coat. Goop smearers were somewhat diligent, the<br>
> majority of the floor is fairly even and smooth but there are some areas<br>
> with blobs. We put the canvas on the floor again by the bathroom, and<br>
> put up strings and signs to help encourage Not walking on until it's<br>
> finished. Huge thanks to Quirk who not only vaccuumed & puttied the<br>
> whole day but also brought cookies for the helpers. Props to all those<br>
> who helped: Hephaestus, Miah, Sai, Eric, Mikolaj, Christopher, Paul ...<br>
> you all rock!<br>
><br>
> Jim are there any hand sanders that have vaccuums attached like the Big<br>
> one? If so I think it's totally worth attempting those.<br>
><br>
> Next step: sanding! I could not find any hand sanders except the little<br>
> tiny crappy one I found in an alley sometime last year... anyone who has<br>
> an orbital sander and wants to put in a little time with it, please do<br>
> so! And can we borrow it for the next person, too?<br>
><br>
> If you can sand or just loan a sander, please reply to the list; if I<br>
> don't hear from anyone in the next day or two we'll assume we've got to<br>
> rent the floor sander again but I'd love to save the money.<br>
><br>
> Rachel<br>
><br>
> jim wrote:<br>
> > [Friday 20100618:18:47]<br>
> > initial sanding is done.<br>
> > used 20 grit for the first passes, 36 grit for the<br>
> > last pass.<br>
> > costs $76.82, rachel paid $50.<br>
> > took about 4 hours, Frantisek did about 2 of them.<br>
> ><br>
> > canvas is on the floor between the kitchen and the<br>
> > toilet room; i put stuff along the side to suggest<br>
> > "don't walk over there".<br>
> ><br>
> > filling:<br>
> > * there are some big cracks that should be filled<br>
> > with wood plugs before applying goop.<br>
> > * goop smearers should try to force the goop into<br>
> > the cracks and holes and scrape any material off<br>
> > the surface.<br>
> ><br>
> > post-filling:<br>
> > * we'll have to sand the floor after the goop dries.<br>
> > if goop smearers will have been diligent, then<br>
> > we can use hand-sanders.<br>
> > if goop smearers left goop above the surface of<br>
> > the wood, then we'll have to rent the sander again<br>
> > (for another $75 or so plus getting and lifting and<br>
> > returning...).<br>
> > * after sanding of whatever nature, we'll seal it.<br>
> > * after the sealer dries, we'll put down a couple<br>
> > of coats of floor finish (water-base is good and<br>
> > cures fast (polyurethane takes over a week to cure).<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 01:02 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:<br>
> >> The current state of the floor is this. Jim is planning to do rough<br>
> >> sanding tomorrow (Friday) morning, and he will put down some paper for<br>
> >> the walking on if you REALLY HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM... Thanks Jim<br>
> >> you rock!<br>
> >><br>
> >> The next step is to fill the cracks with putty. I will be at<br>
> >> Noisebridge most of the day Sunday doing this, and Quirk has also<br>
> >> volunteered to help with this. She has additionally promised to bring<br>
> >> home made cookies for anyone else who assists (yay Quirk!), so come<br>
> >> help! We could use two or three more sets of hands.<br>
> >><br>
> >> If you want to help but can't come Sunday, only Friday afternoon/evening<br>
> >> or Saturday, that's great:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Puttying is very simple. You just stick a putty knife in the putty and<br>
> >> slather it over the cracks, divots, & low spots. Don't cover the entire<br>
> >> floor surface, and try not to leave lumps, but lumps can be wiped off<br>
> >> pretty easily with a damp cloth after the putty has started to dry, if<br>
> >> necessary.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Putty knives are in the dirty shop on the metal shelves, right side, one<br>
> >> of the upper shelves, in a ?yellow plastic bin. It's above head height<br>
> >> (for me) but you can see the handles sticking up. Putty is in gallon<br>
> >> buckets on the floor, in the main corridor going back, on the right (as<br>
> >> you face the back of the space), quite near the floor parts in question.<br>
> >> It's called something like Wood Filler, I forget exactly, it shouldn't<br>
> >> be hard to find. There are 3 buckets one of which is only half full.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Cleanup is with soap and water as long as the putty hasn't hardened<br>
> >> (which takes a couple hours).<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks!<br>
> >> Rachel<br>
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