Josh,<div><br><div> This is very good input. I will ask this item to be put on the meeting business for Tuesday (err.. actually, I should edit the wiki myself.. damn)... to see if this is worth pursuing for tax advise, etc. </div>
<div><br></div><div> I don't have a lot of time, I just see a need at Noisebridge and see a solution. Before putting any time into this, I'd like to see who would block first -- to save myself the bother :)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Glen<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Josh Berkus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:josh@agliodbs.com">josh@agliodbs.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im"><br>
> What sticky non-profit issues are there for us? Is this a horrible idea?<br>
> Can we make it a mini-maker-faire type of event where people also can<br>
> set up tables showing off kits they made, sell arduinos, etc.?<br>
<br>
</div>Who's our CPA? We should ask them if charity auctions are considered<br>
"unrelated business income"; I don't remember what the criteria are.<br>
<br>
Selling arduino kits, t-shirts etc, is also possibly "unrelated business<br>
income" (UBI). The standards for this are confusing and conditional;<br>
for example an arduino kit might be considered related to NB's mission<br>
if being sold for a class (educational), but not if being sold separately.<br>
<br>
The issue with UBI for a 501c3 is (a) you need to file a form for it<br>
with your annual 990 (b) you may need to pay sales tax (again, ask the<br>
CPA), and (c) if you have too much UBI then the IRS classifies you "not<br>
a nonprofit" and you lose your 501c3. The standard for "too much" isn't<br>
completely clear, but if it's more than 10% of NB's annnual revenue,<br>
that's definitely dangerous.<br>
<br>
We definitely need to provide auction winners with a form which says<br>
"you got X at charity auction, for a donation of $$$ for NB, a 501c3<br>
non-profit organization. Value was received in return for your<br>
donation; consult your tax preparer to determine the charitable portion<br>
of your gift." A huge no-no is supplying donors with any kind of<br>
valuation of the items purchased; that should be up to them.<br>
<br>
I am not a tax preparer, but I did spend 3 years being a fundraiser at<br>
the Opera, including running 3 silent auctions. NB should definitely<br>
consult its CPA before going ahead with such an auction.<br>
<br>
Non-tax advice: I'd suggest having a silent auction, maybe with online<br>
auctioning as well, for 80% of the items. The remaining 20% most<br>
valuable/interesting/exclusive should be auctioned off auctioneer-style,<br>
preferably after a lot of beer (we once got $1500 for a signed<br>
sweatshirt this way) Try to pick items you know will have broad appeal,<br>
and maybe ones which are unique. This is also dependant on having a<br>
good auctioneer, one who knows how to work a crowd and how to play off<br>
bidders against each other, so if you don't have such a person, you<br>
might stick to an exclusively silent auction.<br>
<br>
Do not underestimate the amount of time it will take you to tally all of<br>
the auctions. Also, make sure you get full contact information for<br>
anyone making a bid at the start of the auction.<br>
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