<p>In nycr,</p>
<p>We occasionally did goup trips to local subways. Sometimes on a late night hack session a quick escort to mode of transport is a more than chivalrous act.</p>
<p>On Sep 20, 2010 8:51 AM, "Michael Shiloh" <<a href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com">michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Something else which you (we) all need to consider is safety. It's one <br>
> thing to identify "Dr. Bobby" as "less balanced" or "not excellent", <br>> it's another to find yourself alone at the space with someone who weighs <br>> twice as much as you, seems to have no fear of physical contact, and <br>
> makes you feel threatened.<br>> <br>> I think some discussion around this would be useful. E.g.<br>> <br>> * Call the police sooner rather than later<br>> * If you are one of the last two or three (or 5) people at NB, and you <br>
> are about to leave, check in with the remaining people. Do they feel <br>> comfortable being the last one or two? Is anyone remaining making them <br>> feel the least bit uncomfortable?<br>> * MAKE SURE THE GATE LOCKS ON THE WAY OUT! I have found the gate closed <br>
> but not locked on a number of occasions<br>> * Keep the front door locked,<br>> * Is there a way to lock the elevator entrance?<br>> <br>> Which brings up an interesting topic we've not discussed: How did "Dr. <br>
> Bobby" get in in the first place?<br>> <br>> Discussion, please (not that one ever needs to invite this on this list)<br>> <br>> On 09/20/2010 07:32 AM, Shannon Lee wrote:<br>>> This sounds like the guy -- he identified himself as Robert "Dr. Bobby"<br>
>> Owens. He was wearing shorts and a floppy camping hat when I interacted<br>>> with him on Friday.<br>>><br>>> He's pretty obviously having some sort of manic episode; when I told him<br>>> that he was acting crazy, he said, "Yeah, some people say manic, but<br>
>> really it's just powerful." He spent a good deal of our conversation<br>>> trying to map the rules and power structures of Noisebridge -- when I<br>>> got there, he was trying to eject someone else, whom he said "made him<br>
>> uncomfortable." He asked a lot of questions about process.<br>>><br>>> The trick to getting him to leave was, as Robert described, patiently<br>>> waiting out his delaying tactics (I also ended up waiting while he went<br>
>> to the bathroom and looked under various pieces of furniture for stuff<br>>> he might have left -- he had a name for this procedure which included<br>>> the word "quantum" ("quantum air scrubbing?"). He was pleasant, if<br>
>> incredibly chatty, and responded very well to simple expression of<br>>> authority ("You have to leave now").<br>>><br>>> So here's the warning: I walked him out of the space and down the<br>
>> stairs, upon which he followed me, still chatting; I thought, great, the<br>>> further from Noisebridge the better. My plan was to wish him goodbye at<br>>> the BART gate, but he had a BART ticket, and sat near but not next to<br>
>> me, having a loud conversation with himself. When I got off, he was<br>>> right there with me again, still talking.<br>>><br>>> I was meeting Andy for lunch, so I walked to his office, and used<br>
>> building security as a filter to scrape Dr. Bobby off me. When Andy and<br>>> I left through the back door, he was engaged in a verbal altercation<br>>> with building security.<br>>><br>>> Andy later discovered that he'd claimed that I had stolen his cell<br>
>> phone, and insisted that the police be called; when they arrived, they<br>>> recognized him and took him away. I bought the security guard a box of<br>>> See's.<br>>><br>>> So in conclusion: Dr. Bobby does respond to being escorted, politely,<br>
>> firmly, and patiently out the door, but you are best off retreating back<br>>> inside once you've escorted him out; and so far, he comes back. Calling<br>>> SFPD seems to be the most expedient way to get rid of him.<br>
>><br>>> Oh, and by the way, on Friday Dr Bobby and I made a deal that he<br>>> wouldn't come back until Monday; you can see how well that worked out.<br>>><br>>> --S<br>>><br>>> PS, if you have the chance, ask him about his theory on the sentience of<br>
>> water.<br>>><br>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Robert Fletcher<br>>> <<a href="mailto:lobatifricha@gmail.com">lobatifricha@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lobatifricha@gmail.com">lobatifricha@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>>> We kicked someone by a similar description out of Noisebridge<br>>> Saturday afternoon. He was climbing on desks, rooting through<br>>> boxes, ranting at no one in particular and generally making a<br>
>> nuisance of himself. He was clearly beyond the level of imbalance<br>>> we typically see at the space and seemed to be a danger to himself<br>>> and others. He was wearing a hospital gown and a skirt around his<br>
>> waist, neither of which hid much. I gather his name is Robert<br>>> (Bobby) Owens. Others said they have seen him at the space before,<br>>> though he seemed more subdued and sane on prior occasions.<br>
>><br>>> --Fletch<br>>><br>>><br>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Hephaestus <<a href="mailto:hephaestus@antipunk.net">hephaestus@antipunk.net</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:hephaestus@antipunk.net">hephaestus@antipunk.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>>> As we were leaving 2169 tonight, a man was coming into the space who<br>>> was obviously unwelcome. Several members asked me to escort him<br>>> out of<br>>> the space, and when I tried he got very hostile, loud, and<br>
>> disruptive.<br>>> Some members were obviously afraid of this man, and he was<br>>> behaving in<br>>> an agressive manner while following them around the space very<br>
>> closely. When he failed to leave after several requests, we<br>>> called the<br>>> police. The police eventually arrived, exclaiming 'NOT YOU AGAIN!',<br>>> and quickly escorted him away.<br>
>><br>>> He is 5'9, approximately 160lbs, Caucasian, balding white hair<br>>> trimmed<br>>> very short, in his early to mid 50's, wearing an olive drab<br>>> jacket, a<br>
>> yellow tie-died dress, brown cut off pants, flip flops, and a pastel<br>>> blue baseball cap with a pink flower on it. If anybody got a picture<br>>> it'd be helpful.<br>>><br>
>> He is the person Shannon had to remove the other morning. Is<br>>> he the<br>>> person who showed up this morning without pants?<br>>><br>>> (p.s. Rubin, I fully expect you to carry out your threat to<br>
>> 'punch the<br>>> next person who calls the police to noisebridge.' It was me.)<br>>><br>>> --<br>>> Hephaestus<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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