I've got a G1 running 2.2 and it is clunky as all get-out. About ready for an upgrade myself. Google is notorious for giving away phones at Google IO worth more than the ticket price. At the last one a friend of mine got two phones, including the HTC Evo. He sold the other for $250, almost enough to cover the $300 ticket.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Ryan Rawson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ryanobjc@gmail.com">ryanobjc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
If you are on tmobile and buy the phone outright you can get their<br>
unsubsidized rate. That discount is worth about $20/month. So a<br>
subsidized smart phone is around $200, plus a $80/month plan over 2<br>
years. If you buy the phone for around $500, your monthly is now $60<br>
instead, and you save $480 on the plan over 2 years. The subsidy is<br>
worth around $300 so you are actually saving $180 over 2 years. Yes<br>
inflation messes this up a bit :-)<br>
<br>
I have the n1 and I unlocked it, HTC will honor the hardware warranty.<br>
I am running CM right now, and it is great.<br>
<br>
Most of the other phone roots involve model specific flaws. Since you<br>
can always force a downgrade, if there was even just 1 rom with a hole<br>
in it the phone is rootable. I did this to my older G1.<br>
<br>
However the N1 supports loading your own roms into any of the multiple<br>
firmware spaces without hacking. It's pretty cool, but the phone is<br>
rapidly becoming obsolete and I dont think we'll see another phone<br>
like it in a long time sadly.<br>
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-ryan<br>
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> Nexus One, though not commercially available, is said to be a<br>
> crud-free phone. The developer models come unjailed and unlocked.<br>
> You supposedly can get them from Google at their Android developer<br>
> meetings sometimes, and employees might be able to obtain them.<br>
><br>
> It may be intimidating to pay $500 for a phone, but it's a small<br>
> difference over the subsidized price ($200) compared to the cellular<br>
> plan for a year, not to mention the life of the phone.<br>
><br>
> If you have an older iPhone, you probably have the unlimited data<br>
> plan, and can move the SIM card to another AT&T phone like the HTC<br>
> Captivate (when it comes out) without informing AT&T, and do all the<br>
> tethering you want.<br>
><br>
> Note that the Android actually acts as a WiFi AP (hot spot) that<br>
> gateways to the 3G/4G/whatever network, so "tethering" is a bit of a<br>
> misnomer - there's no cables involved. You basically get Internet<br>
> access for every WiFi device in range.<br>
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