I was thinking the same thing when I saw all this planning go on.<div><br></div><div>To that end, I also have to recommend "What the Dormouse Said", a kind of history of counter-culture and technology in the 1960s. It covers that, as well as Engelbart's work, and much more.<br>
<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:21 PM, lee worden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wonder@riseup.net">wonder@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I wonder whether Moxie is thinking of the Whole Earth Catalog Demise Party<br>
of 1971:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.wholeearth.com/issue/1180/article/321/history.-.demise.party.etc" target="_blank">http://www.wholeearth.com/issue/1180/article/321/history.-.demise.party.etc</a><br>
A non-stop non-score volleyball game competed for loudest activity with<br>
balloons full of inhalable laughing gas. And then at midnight Scott<br>
Beach announced from the stage that these here two hundred $100 dollar<br>
bills, yes, $20,000, were now the property of the party-goers. Just as<br>
soon as they could decide what to do with them.<br>
<br>
"Flush them down the toilet!" "No, don't!" "Give it to the Indians!"<br>
"Bangladesh!" "Our commune needs a pump or we'll all get hepatitis!" And<br>
so on. The debate lasted till 9 a.m. the next morning, when a dozen<br>
remaining hardcore turned the remaining $15,000 ($5,000 had been<br>
distributed to the crowd at one wild point) over to Fred Moore,<br>
dishwasher.<br>
<br>
Fred Turner's excellent book traces the outcome:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/817415_chap4.html" target="_blank">http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/817415_chap4.html</a><br>
In the summer of 1971, Felsenstein joined Resource One, a gathering of<br>
former staffers from a volunteer switchboard and computer programmers<br>
who had left the University of California at Berkeley in protest of the<br>
invasion of Cambodia; Resource One was also a project partly funded by<br>
several thousand dollars Fred Moore had taken home from the Catalog's<br>
Demise Party. At Resource One, Felsenstein and others sought to<br>
establish public computing terminals at several locations in the Bay<br>
area, with an eye toward creating a peer-to-peer information exchange.<br>
<br>
ps. Welcome back, Moxie!<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Moxie Marlinspike wrote:<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge's birthday!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 09/12/2010 01:02 AM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:<br>
>> Moxie, this sounds like a blast!<br>
>><br>
>> A couple complications spring to mind:<br>
>><br>
>> - Noisebridge charging money to get in. I would think that some<br>
>> people would object to having to pay to get in. Perhaps if there was a<br>
>> separate, cordoned-off area, people could enjoy the space while paid<br>
>> attendees can still be differentiated.<br>
><br>
> I think this is easy enough to handle. Since participants would need<br>
> some kind of "voting" tool (colored cards or something else), we could<br>
> just have people pay for that without requiring paid access to the<br>
> entire space.<br>
><br>
> Still, I'm thinking that this event would "take over" the space in other<br>
> ways. Since it potentially gets more interesting with the more money<br>
> you collect, I would want to promote the fuck out of the event in order<br>
> to get a lot of folks there. I'm imagining a<br>
> push-the-furniture-out-of-the-way party environment with music playing<br>
> over a bustling crowd. Noisebridge could even sell drinks or something<br>
> as a fundraiser for the space.<br>
><br>
>> - Would the purchase(s) be made immediately? I would think that it<br>
>> could be difficult to rent a bouncyhouse, band, clowns, etc. on short<br>
>> notice.<br>
><br>
> I think it depends on the purchase. Some purchases could be made<br>
> immediately, others would have to be delayed. Proposals would have to<br>
> include details on things like (for instance) where the purchased<br>
> bouncycastle would be stored, who could use it at what time, etc. Folks<br>
> in London did a similar kind of experiment once and actually ended up<br>
> purchasing a really small parcel of land outside of town, for which<br>
> everyone who was in attendance is now like 1/200th owner of and can do<br>
> whatever they want on.<br>
><br>
> - moxie<br>
><br>
><br>
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