<font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">I've talked to two corporate CEOs who have had legal actions taken on their behalf with ICANN and some United Nations Body, using legal pressure to have sites that threatened their business taken down, though I don't think it will work in the long-term unless the United Nations goes further in that direction. It might... France's three strikes laws are annoying. CPALead, a Cost Per Action Internet marketing company was one of the companies that's been doing that. I market for a living and it came up in chats with them. Also, a large number of my fellow marketers who use spam and host streaming movies are willing to go the extra mile and pay more cash to ensure that a simple C&D or call from a law enforcement site or security division (facebook security meddles in things that affect their business far too much from what I know) to Godaddy doesn't get their sites taken down because apparently that's pretty easy.</font></font><div>
<font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Having a pro-pot or pro-drug forum is almost enough to justify the assumption that at some point there will be a law enforcement investigation into the background of the owner(s) and that it doesn't matter if you're in the US or not. Remember Overgrow.com? how about the movie sites ninjavideo, the original <a href="http://tvshack.com">tvshack.com</a> (site, with old db has been put back up at tvshack.cc) and the others? They weren't even in the United States.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Canada and the NL (where BREEN is the anti-piracy organization) aren't safe. If I have anything that might be considered "grey" I put it on my servers in HK, but since WorldStream is the bandwidth provider for my host, I'm not even sure that it would stay up if someone wanted it down badly enough and took a stance against it (DDOS aside).</font></font><div>
<font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">I think as more and more people start spewing the crap that gets these measures enacted, we'll see more trackers and forums go down and more people go to jail. "Darknets" decentralize data and make it a bit more private but aren't very good for public access. Rapidshare, megavideo and sites like them already take down videos and files pretty quick but at least in the sense that file/movie upload storage will probably be there later, they've managed to evade a ton of threats and suits so far.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Crazy!</font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Sai <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sai@saizai.com">sai@saizai.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20016995-261.html?tag=mncol;5n" target="_blank">http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20016995-261.html?tag=mncol;5n</a><br>
<a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-3804" target="_blank">http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-3804</a> (click 'full text')<br>
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TL;DR: if media company convinces court that a site is for piracy,<br>
they can get it completely blacklisted by US DNS servers & registrars,<br>
and blacklisted from any payment systems.<br>
<br>
Obvious next steps:<br>
a) they remove other undesirable things from the 'net (e.g. porn,<br>
pro-pot advocacy, political dissidents, hackers...)<br>
b) we completely blacklist US-based registrars, DNS servers, & payment systems<br>
<br>
Serious shit, yo.<br>
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- Sai<br>
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