I'm in for helping to get rid of the futon.� Will you be there Saturday afternoon/evening perchance?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rachel@mediumreality.com">rachel@mediumreality.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">here, let me be more explicit and less verbose about my proposed solutions:<br>
<br>
short term:<br>
-get rid of the nap futon in the corner by the west fire escape<br>
-encourage general membership to aim towards a more work-oriented atmosphere<br>
<br>
long term:<br>
-work towards making the space appear more like a professional workspace<br>
and less like a college dorm lounge for hackerz. (while maintaining our<br>
signature welcoming and offbeat atmosphere)<br>
<br>
these of course would go hand in hand with whatever direct communication<br>
anyone would like to do with anyone else about<br>
nappers/crashers/squatters/undesirables. �i wouldn't presume to tell<br>
anyone how to communicate, or with whom. �i will make my opinions on<br>
this available on an individual basis for anyone who wants them.<br>
<br>
If anyone wants to help me put that nap-nasty futon on the street i will<br>
be happy to collaborate on that project.<br>
<br>
R.<br>
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On 10/21/2010 4:22 PM, meredith scheff wrote:<br>
> did we just agree to continue to do nothing? I'm sure that will _totally_<br>
> solve the problem.<br>
> (/sarcasm).<br>
> Where is it on the wiki?<br>
> m<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Ari Braginsky <<a href="mailto:contact@aribraginsky.com">contact@aribraginsky.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy</a><br>
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>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Anselm Hook <<a href="mailto:anselm@gmail.com">anselm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>>> Pretty much everything we do is on a case-by-case basis and it lets us<br>
>>>> not have Rules, which then we'd have to enforce, even if it didn't make<br>
>>>> sense to do so. �I'm all for case-by-case bases.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>> I like this statement in general. If our whole civilization could practice<br>
>>> mindfulness we could probably avoid a lot of the horrible things that happen<br>
>>> to people when they fall between the cracks.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Admittedly - dealing with a situation on its own terms, taking the time to<br>
>>> look at all the factors, weighing the best possible outcomes is hugely time<br>
>>> consuming. The problem we face as humans is limited time, energy and<br>
>>> cognitive resources to fully solve all the challenges we face - although<br>
>>> given sufficient time we could produce better outcomes for any one of those<br>
>>> challenges than any hard rule. As well of course the universe is so<br>
>>> blisteringly complicated and outcomes so perverse that the side effects of<br>
>>> any action we take almost always dominate over the intended consequences.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Nevertheless I am still in favor of at least trying to be mindful and<br>
>>> avoiding the fall to rule. It is good practice. And while the discussion may<br>
>>> be raucous- the alternatives are often worse.<br>
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