He wasn't there when I showed up today. I'll keep swinging in before work until I bump into him.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 4:11 PM, aestetix aestetix <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aestetix@gmail.com">aestetix@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Is Mr Dalajlama still there? I have a friend who is pretty good at handling people in that context and is willing to help. Can someone give me a buzz if they see him there again?<div>
<div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rachelyra@gmail.com" target="_blank">rachelyra@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><p>I understand he is also responsible for lots of creepy scrawled words and images on the walls, most notable & recurring phrase being 'smoke dmt'. It kind of looks like the stuff they always have on movie sets where a psychopath has made his lair. This kind of decoration seems most unexcellent to me, primarily because it helps to create the 'skeezy flophouse' environment and helps to destroy the 'productive workplace' environment.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 31, 2010 1:56 PM, "Rachel McConnell" <<a href="mailto:rachel@xtreme.com" target="_blank">rachel@xtreme.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> I have not met this guy and I have only heard rumors. My understanding<br>
> is that he does the following undesirable things:<br>> <br>> * shows up to the space scarily high<br>> * sleeps there<br>> * takes things from people's shelves<br>> * leaves dirty clothes in the "clothing swap" area he created<br>
> <br>> (There may be other things I don't know of)<br>> <br>> None of those are excellent things. But if he stopped doing them, would<br>> the man himself be a problem? I'd rather focus effort on stopping the<br>
> problem behaviors. That seems much more of a Noisebridge way of doing<br>> things than trying to ban him.<br>> <br>> Aestetix, I think the message that these things are not acceptable will<br>> come across much better if many people in the community talk to him<br>
> rather than just one. Nevertheless I encourage you to implement your<br>> idea of trying to become his friend, as that can only produce good<br>> results for us all.<br>> <br>> Generally it's hard to criticize someone to their face. But like<br>
> cleaning up after ourselves, it has to be done to maintain the<br>> Noisebridge we know and love.<br>> <br>> Rachel<br>> <br>> Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson wrote:<br>>> On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:46 AM, aestetix aestetix wrote:<br>
>>> So, here's my actual take on it. I think there's a communication breakdown, where a lot<br>>>> people think "we" have "attempted" to "talk" to him, and "failed."<br>
> Instead of uniting<br>>>> against him, why not have the community ask a member (of the<br>> community, not necessarily<br>>>> Noisebridge) who we all trust to take all of our ideas and have a<br>
> private chat with him?<br>>>> That way, rather than having a bunch of people all hit him with<br>> complaints, we have one<br>>>> person who's filtering them all, and in the process learns this guy's<br>
> viewpoint and maybe<br>>>> even forms a friendship with him. I think that would be much more<br>> effective than arguing<br>>>> about whether to exclude him or not, and it would be easier to<br>
> connect with him that way.<br>
>>><br>>> <br>>> Are you hereby volunteering?<br>>> <br>>> Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson, Dr.rer.nat.<br>>> Postdoctoral researcher<br>>> <a href="mailto:mik@math.stanford.edu" target="_blank">mik@math.stanford.edu</a><br>
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