<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Wait, are you suggesting that someone dissect Mr. Dalajlama and install<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium; "> 12 Sub-C Cell NiMH batteries in him? If so, you should probably post it to the "Things to do" page on the wiki. </span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;"><br></span></font>-Doctor Popular<div>Game Designer/Genius</div><div><a href="http://www.DocPop.org">www.DocPop.org</a></div><div>415-724-9267</div></div><div><br>On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:35 PM, jim <<a href="mailto:jim@systemateka.com">jim@systemateka.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.robotreviews.com/hack2/battery.shtml">http://www.robotreviews.com/hack2/battery.shtml</a> </span><br><span>hth</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 13:31 -0700, meredith scheff wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Oh dear lord I really didn't need to see that. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But ya, that is him. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Gian Pablo Villamil</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:gian.pablo@gmail.com">gian.pablo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        That's him in the background, isn't it?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        I'm getting kind of tired of having to deal with various</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        deranged people to get things done. I've had stuff taken from</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        my shelf, and project materials "appropriated".</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        I recall that the somewhat more exclusive membership approach</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        at NYCR didn't seem to get in the way of people doing cool</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        stuff.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 4:55 PM, meredith scheff</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        <<a href="mailto:satiredun@gmail.com">satiredun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                I have talked to him, very directly, twice, and been</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                brushed off or spaced out. He knew what I was talking</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                about and chose to ignore it. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                He doesn't want to be at *noisebridge*, he wants to be</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                somewhere for free where he can be high.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                m</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:46 PM, aestetix aestetix</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                <<a href="mailto:aestetix@gmail.com">aestetix@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        For context, we've had this discussion many</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        times, in many forms. In some forms, it's been</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        ways to keep certain people, like kids or</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        individuals, out of Noisebridge, or even</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        debating setting hours of "visitation." In</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        others, it's been getting awesome new tech and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        making sure all the members have it, like</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        RFID. In others, it's been cutting off parts</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        of Noisebridge to people who were not</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        considered members, like the DJ booth/wall</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        incident. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        I think all of these represent exclusion of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        someone who is being targeted for a certain</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        amount of time, for a certain reason. So here</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        are some of the things Noisebridge has done to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        make sure that exclusion hasn't happened:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        we've passed keys to people all over the world</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        (thanks Mitch!), making sure people knew that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        keys are not tied to membership, but to being</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        awesome. We've set the door system as a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        locking system that's deliberately pickable,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        to make sure that someone who doesn't have a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        key, but has the knowledge or resource to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        enter, is able to. We've argued against</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        setting parts of Noisebridge to be locked,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        because every part of Noisebridge should be</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        totally accessible to everyone, unless it is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        specifically labeled otherwise (such as a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        member's shelf or a project with a sign on</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        it). These labels, of course, should be added</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        with excellence towards others in mind.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        <devil's advocate viewpoint></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        Now regarding this individual, against whom it</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        seems the mob has been calibrated: first, what</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        a fucking awesome name. Salvador Dalajlama? He</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        may not understand the connections made by</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        that name, but it takes two people who I think</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        are quite important and combines them. It wins</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        creativity points from me. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        Second, I read in one of these emails that the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        dude scaled the fire escape to get in, and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        people are concerned enough that they're</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        considering putting a lock in the sliding door</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        or something. That guy has guts, and is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        creative. How many people have been locked out</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        of a place and gave up after 10 minutes and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        went somewhere else? And this dude loves</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        Noisebridge so much that he fucking climbed up</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        the side of the building to get in? That's</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        hardcore! We need more people willing to do</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        crazy shit and take risks like that.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        </devil's advocate viewpoint></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        So, here's my actual take on it. I think</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        there's a communication breakdown, where a lot</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        people think "we" have "attempted" to "talk"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        to him, and "failed." Instead of uniting</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        against him, why not have the community ask a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        member (of the community, not necessarily</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        Noisebridge) who we all trust to take all of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        our ideas and have a private chat with him?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        That way, rather than having a bunch of people</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        all hit him with complaints, we have one</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        person who's filtering them all, and in the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        process learns this guy's viewpoint and maybe</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        even forms a friendship with him. I think that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        would be much more effective than arguing</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        about whether to exclude him or not, and it</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        would be easier to connect with him that way.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        aestetix</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Christie</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        Dudley <<a href="mailto:longobord@gmail.com">longobord@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                There's been a discussion of getting a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                maglock in place since we moved into</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                the building.  It'd make things easier</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                for everyone, I think.  I can't</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                remember the exact reason that project</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                was dropped.  I think it had something</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                to do with the cost of the system and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                Noisebridge not being able to come up</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                with a consensus to shell out or the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                landlords not being OK with it or</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                there not being power in the area to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                run the thing. I think all of those</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                were discussed at some point.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                HOWEVER I'd be willing to bet that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                this guy is NOT getting in via any QR</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                code, rotating or non-rotating keys,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                or any other sorts of technical</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                trickery, but rather he's either</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                coming in when people are leaving or</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                he has his own physical key.  I'd put</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                money on him waiting outside so he can</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                enter as others are leaving.  That's a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                pretty common trick amongst the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                homeless.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                Christie</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                _______</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                But wait... there's no FCC on the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                moon!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Carl</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                Sue <<a href="mailto:theabcasian@gmail.com">theabcasian@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        On the note of security hacker</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        dojo has an rf I'd key and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        maglock system could this be</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        something we can get in place,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        I know there has been</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        controversy over it but</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        perhaps now would be a good</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        time to start talking about</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        it, what about keeping the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        current buzz in but add the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        maglock and remove the key it</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        would also give us a notice</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        that the door is open and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        needs to be shut. on that note</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        im guessing leaving the door</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        open even for workshops is bad</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        maybe we can get rid of the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        type that people use to hold</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        the door open?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        On Oct 30, 2010 2:06 PM,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        "meredith scheff"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        <<a href="mailto:satiredun@gmail.com">satiredun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>If everyone on this thread</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        tells him he's not welcome,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        that's a whole hell</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of a lot of mojo in this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        guy's face.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I, as much as I really don't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        like this guy, also detest the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        calling police</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>option. HOWEVER:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        *threatening* to call the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        police is just fine. I also</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        don't</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>like the sign idea, it's</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        passive aggressive, and who</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        knows what this guy's</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>faculties for recognizing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        his own face.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Direct confrontation. Calm,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        direct, keep the message clear</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        and simple.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>As for safety policies, I'm</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        all for keeping them a bit</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        higher, but please</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>don't think I mean TSA. I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        mean, we're in a sketchy hood,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        and so far we have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>been adrift in a sheltered</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        harbor of anonymity and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        obscurity, and that is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ending or has ended. We need</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        to recognize that. Can we get</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        the rotating key</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>back up?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't think we should</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        *change* the lock, but we</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        could lock the glass door</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>at night.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>These items i believe are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        for the next meeting. I can't</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        make this tuesday</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>because of prior</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        obligations, but would love to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        be a part of the discussions</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the meeting afterwords.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Also, here's an idea: for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        membership applications, have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        there be a 1 week</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>period between the end of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        the application and the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        initiation. Post that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>person's name on the list or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        the wiki (or their moniker, or</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        whatever) so</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that folks who can't make</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        the meeting can weigh in, as</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        well.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I realize that doesn't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        actually help with the problem</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        of random weirdos</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(more weird and random than</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        the normal) but it's an idea.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Keep calm and carry on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Meredith</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        12:02 PM, Jonathan Lassoff</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        <<a href="mailto:jof@thejof.com">jof@thejof.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        11:52 AM, Sean Cusack</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        <<a href="mailto:sean.p.cusack@gmail.com">sean.p.cusack@gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So, can we reinforce with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        him that he's not welcome and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        maybe serve him</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>up</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>an ultimatum? Something</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        like, "hey, you know you</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        aren't welcome here -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>you've been told before.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        Its not a crash pad, or a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        place that things can</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>taken from. So, please</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        take off. If you can't stop</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        coming back, we'll</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>no choice but to call the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        cops".</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Personally, I really detest</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        the idea of calling the police</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        to get this</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>guy to leave.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>If anything, I think this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        is a good chance for us to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        unite and look at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>our security practices for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        access control. For a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        *hacker*space of all</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>things, I think our</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        "security" at 2169 is pretty</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        dismal (read:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>nonexistent).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>A couple of things I think</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        we can start doing:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>- Ask on the intercom who</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        is coming in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>- Remove a public QR code</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        by the front door</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>- Make sure the "key" page</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        on pony is properly rotating</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        its keys (it</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>seems to have stopped)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>- Repair / replace the lock</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        on the door from the stairwell</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        and/or elevator</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>gate</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>What other things can we do</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        to make sure we're not just</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        letting in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>total strangers without</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        greeting them first?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        _______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Noisebridge-discuss mailing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        <a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net"><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a></a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        <a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss"><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a></a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>-- </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>doing stuff and making</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        things</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>---</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"The function of all art ...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        is an extension of the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        function of the visual</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>brain, to acquire</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        knowledge; ...artists are, in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        a sense, neurologists who</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>study the capacities of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        visual brain with techniques</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        that are unique to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>them. ." -Semir Zeki</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        _______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        Noisebridge-discuss mailing</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        <a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net"><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a></a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                        <a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss"><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a></a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                _______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                Noisebridge-discuss mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                <a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net"><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a></a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                                <a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss"><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a></a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        _______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        Noisebridge-discuss mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        <a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net"><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a></a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                        <a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss"><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a></a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                -- </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                doing stuff and making things</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                ---</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                "The function of all art ... is an extension of the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                function of the visual brain, to acquire</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                knowledge; ...artists are, in a sense, neurologists</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                who study the capacities of the visual brain with</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                techniques that are unique to them. ." -Semir Zeki</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                _______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                Noisebridge-discuss mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                <a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net"><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a></a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>                <a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss"><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a></a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-- </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>doing stuff and making things</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>---</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"The function of all art ... is an extension of the function of the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>visual brain, to acquire knowledge; ...artists are, in a sense,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>neurologists who study the capacities of the visual brain with</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>techniques that are unique to them. ." -Semir Zeki</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Noisebridge-discuss mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Noisebridge-discuss mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a></span><br><span><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>