I don't think membership status really makes a difference- if you're sleeping there too often, you're sleeping there too often. <div><br></div><div>as far as what to do about it, go up to the person and say, directly, politely, "hiya. my name is _______. I don't know if you knew this, but Noisebridge has a general policy against sleeping here."</div>
<div><br></div><div>M<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:algoldor@yahoo.com">algoldor@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi to Al!<br>
<br>
Answers:<br>
<br>
Sleepers - I know about one non member person who slept at Noisbridge yesterday<br>
who crashes around the place once per week or so. I do not think that there was<br>
another non member really sleeping there. I've not noticed any non member<br>
staying around on regular bases for t he nights with intention of sleeping<br>
there. There are several people who has places whre to sleep but they do work<br>
during the nights at Noisebridge quite often therefore they should be considered<br>
a very handy "disturbers" I think.<br>
<br>
Bicycles - The black 60' bicycle is mine and it is now in a working condition.<br>
I'm considering donating it to Noisebridge which should be super cool because it<br>
was made completely free at Bike Kitchen! What do you think about that?<br>
<br>
Hinge - It was removed with whole doors recently, I've got the hinges back so<br>
I'll reinstall them hopefully tonight. It was not me removing them.<br>
<br>
<br>
There are several people working from Noisebridge mostly during their days, some<br>
during the nights. We do not have any regular non hacker sleepers in the place<br>
at least to my knowledge.<br>
<br>
Talk to you soon,<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Frantisek<br>
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From: jim <<a href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a>><br>
To: Robert Fletcher <<a href="mailto:lobatifricha@gmail.com">lobatifricha@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: noisebridge-discuss <<a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a>>; Albert<br>
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Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] So, how many people live at noisebridge now?<br>
<br>
<br>
good ideas, seems to me.<br>
thanks!<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 11:21 -0800, Robert Fletcher wrote:<br>
> I've found it increasingly difficult to find a place to hang my bike<br>
> when I come into the space. Yesterday when I left around 11pm the<br>
> rack was packed, without nearly enough people in the space to account<br>
> for them. Would it be worthwhile to tag bikes with a date to see when<br>
> they arrived in the space, and then get rid of them/hack them if they<br>
> stick around for more than, say, 2 weeks? (An idea ripped off from<br>
> the bike kitchen.)<br>
><br>
> Regarding people who sleep in the space, we haven't seen any sign of<br>
> Mr. SDL recently, have we? Which would mean that our strategy of just<br>
> letting people know that whatever they're doing is unwelcome actually<br>
> works, with persistence. Maybe it's enough to just wake them up, say,<br>
> "Hey, what's your name? Look it's really not cool to sleep here."<br>
> Email the list with their name and tell people to watch out for future<br>
> infringements, and get gradually more aggressive if it continues.<br>
> Part of the problem may be that we let it become a problem before we<br>
> do anything about it. We should tell people up front the first time<br>
> we see them sleeping there that Noisebridge isn't a hostel. Not the<br>
> third or fourth time.<br>
><br>
> Thanks for the update, Al.<br>
><br>
> -Rob<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:56 AM, jim <<a href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> thanks for the inventory.<br>
> how to help? i.e. we each come in at different<br>
> times at different frequencies. how to establish<br>
> patterns of abuse? e.g. who are the two sleepers?<br>
> which bikes have been hanging for weeks? I'm up<br>
> for helping to keep the spirit clean.<br>
> as to the door hinge, was it ever there? did<br>
> someone repurpose it to make a robot or to get<br>
> some other door to swing? seems a small thing<br>
> easily fixed: i'll try to remember to look and<br>
> measure and get a replacement.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 10:42 -0800, Albert Sweigart wrote:<br>
> > So here's a summary:<br>
> ><br>
> > Number of people sleeping at Noisebridge Sunday morning at<br>
> 9:30 when I came in:<br>
> > 2 (maybe they didn't spend the night though)<br>
> ><br>
> > Number of these people who are members:<br>
> > 0<br>
> ><br>
> > Number of people who slept at Noisebridge last night but<br>
> left before I<br>
> > got there:<br>
> > 1<br>
> ><br>
> > Number of bikes I saw on the wall:<br>
> > 7<br>
> ><br>
> > Number of bike spaces we have:<br>
> > 14<br>
> ><br>
> > Number of these bikes that had both wheels attached:<br>
> > 6<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Enforcing the things that we all say we want kind of makes<br>
> me feel<br>
> > like an asshole, so if anyone else wants to volunteer I'd be<br>
> grateful.<br>
> > Actually, "enforcing" is an exaggeration, but I still feel<br>
> like a jerk<br>
> > just for pointing these things out. But these aren't<br>
> problems that go<br>
> > away on their own.<br>
> ><br>
> > Also, the lower hinge on the classroom Turing door is<br>
> missing. I took<br>
> > off the remaining hinge so it doesn't break off. Does anyone<br>
> know<br>
> > where the lower hinge is?<br>
> ><br>
> > -Al<br>
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