Here here. Al is attending to something that's been needed attention, that no one else wanted to do, because we are all drama-fearing pansy-asses.�<div>A cookie and handshake to you.�</div><div>M<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Albert Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com">asweigart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">> � jason's right. the word "living" has a specific and<br>
> strong meaning in english, and is definitely not<br>
> appropriate to describe your time at noisebridge.<br>
<br>
</div>I feel like I need to clarify this, because it wasn't the impression I<br>
wanted to give at all. Frantisek was living, as in residing, at<br>
Noisebridge. He did not sleep overnight every single night, but would<br>
do so multiple times each week and had been for months. He also<br>
planned to continue doing this indefinitely for his stay in the bay<br>
area. He kept his personal affects here and the tea room had not been<br>
used for much else besides his bedroom.<br>
<br>
He said in one of his emails that he did not live at Noisebridge, but<br>
lived at "two or three [other] places". It's really hard to see<br>
Noisebridge as anything but just another place he lived, even if it<br>
was not the only place he lived.<br>
<br>
This isn't about sleeping at Noisebridge as in taking short naps<br>
during the day. This isn't about sleeping at Noisebridge overnight<br>
because you miss the last Bart. This is about consciously planning to<br>
use Noisebridge as a place to spend nights on a regular basis for an<br>
indefinite period of time, and to do so secretly without the informing<br>
the general community because they would find those types of<br>
reoccurring overnights unexcellent if they had known about them.<br>
<br>
This completely fits the definition of living that people mean when we<br>
say, "we don't want people living at noisebridge".<br>
<br>
-Al<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM, jim <<a href="mailto:jim@systemateka.com">jim@systemateka.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> � jason's right. the word "living" has a specific and<br>
> strong meaning in english, and is definitely not<br>
> appropriate to describe your time at noisebridge.<br>
> � you are living in the san francisco bay area, and<br>
> one cannot properly be more specific than that, given<br>
> your living arrangements. you are not living at<br>
> noisebridge. you have slept there and you're there a<br>
> lot. you may consider it your home as others have also<br>
> so claimed, but it is certainly not where you live in<br>
> the sense we use the term. please accommodate us native<br>
> speakers and don't get creative with the small words<br>
> to which we attach important meanings.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 20:13 +0000, Jason Dusek wrote:<br>
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 17:55, Frantisek Apfelbeck <<a href="mailto:algoldor@yahoo.com">algoldor@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > As I wrote before, the phrasing "living at Noisebridge" should<br>
>> > be changed to "sleeping at Noisebridge". I'm not going to<br>
>> > sleep at Noisebridge as I promised however I'm still going to<br>
>> > be around Noisebridge a whole lot. Therefore phrase that I'm<br>
>> > living at Noisebridge I believe is correct and I'm going to<br>
>> > keep using it because I really believe that the phrasing in<br>
>> > the headline is misleading and should not be used in the<br>
>> > future in reference to the general problem of people sleeping<br>
>> > at Noisebridge. I'm alive so I live in the places where I'm<br>
>> > present. I do not want to play with worlds but I really feel<br>
>> > that there is a major difference especially to the people who<br>
>> > do not really fallowed the discussion. �That is at least how I<br>
>> > see it.<br>
>><br>
>> � This is not what most people mean by "living at Noisebridge".<br>
>> � Thanks for clarifying yourself; but I think a more standard<br>
>> � description of what you are doing will be better for all<br>
>> � concerned.<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Jason Dusek<br>
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