I would like to point out that what I have done twice now, is purchase the drinks (5 x 12 cans) from personal funds, <div>and *hope* that everyone else donates to the beverage donations when they grab a can, but I did not take funds out of the </div>
<div>beverage donations to pay them.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If somebody did use donation jar funds to buy drinks, then they should donate to the beverage donations when they take a can<br></div><div>like everyone else. It should be a net positive donation to noisebridge in either case.</div>
<div><br></div><div>John</div><div><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Larry Ogrodnek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ogrodnek@gmail.com" target="_blank">ogrodnek@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Just wanted to follow up that it does seem a bit crazy when people are<br>
talking about not enough funds for rent, that the donation jars are<br>
being raided for "drinks and snacks."<br>
<br>
As someone who always tries to throw some cash in the jars when I'm in<br>
the space, finding out this is where the money goes doesn't really<br>
make me happy....<br>
<div><div></div><div><br>
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Patrick Keys <<a href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com" target="_blank">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Drinks<br>
> -------------------<br>
> A few comments have been to the effect of "buy drinks for everybody out<br>
> of your own money." That sounds good until you've done it a couple times.<br>
><br>
> Myself, and the others that have roughtly buy drinks for everybody, have<br>
> noticed that the people buying drinks are routinely the *only* people<br>
> buying drinks. Many other people drink the drinks and seem to assume<br>
> that obtaining more drinks is somebody else's problem. It's not. If<br>
> you are already pay for your drinks in the form of a donation or buying<br>
> more drinks, great. Everyone else: please pay for your drinks. throw<br>
> in a buck or go buy more.<br>
><br>
> As for the tastebridge jar, there's a big glass jar on the kitchen<br>
> counter that is *sorta* for tastebridge. But its more than just<br>
> tastebridge that drinks the drinks. For what its worth, the tastebridge<br>
> people are the only people that can actually account for money that I've<br>
> seen. They actually have a real ledger book with receipts taped in it<br>
> for all their expenses. Kudos to those people.<br>
><br>
> Petty Cash<br>
> --------------------------<br>
> There's some discussion about how money should be allocated or if we<br>
> should just have a giant pool of donations and money gets spent on<br>
> whatever it needs to be spent on, regardless of the jar it came from. In<br>
> the business world, we call this "petty cash". If you take some petty<br>
> cash, for drinks/snacks/toiletries, then you leave a receipt and it's<br>
> all good. No reason we can't do that way at noisebridge.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Patrick<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 12/19/2010 8:20 PM, Josh Myer wrote:<br>
>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Patrick Keys <<a href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com" target="_blank">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com" target="_blank">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> * The checks/balances of spending money kinda bothers me the most.<br>
>> Sometimes the vibe feels like the default conclusion is to assume people<br>
>> stole money, when in fact they used the money to buy drinks or snacks<br>
>> for everybody.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> To the question of "Are people stealing from the jars?": I collated the<br>
>> donation jar data on the wiki a few weeks ago and looked at it; a<br>
>> reasonably short rolling average was pretty smooth, with peaks around<br>
>> the third Thursdays of the month (yay 5MoF!). Anyone else interested in<br>
>> this should do the same collation work (I did this is as a throwaway<br>
>> exercise, and would actually like it if someone else cross-checked it).<br>
>><br>
>> In any case, point being: if the buckets are being pilfered, it's being<br>
>> done either in a small way or very uniformly. That was reassuring for<br>
>> me, at least.<br>
>> --<br>
>> Josh Myer 415.230.9791 <-- NOTE: New number!<br>
>> <a href="mailto:josh@joshisanerd.com" target="_blank">josh@joshisanerd.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:josh@joshisanerd.com" target="_blank">josh@joshisanerd.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> PS The specific sort of purchase you describe, of "drinks and snacks,"<br>
>> if it's happened, is a wholly inappropriate use for the money in the<br>
>> jars. Tastebridge has its own little bucket for that, and let's skip<br>
>> the question of buying drinks to put into the fridge to be disbursed<br>
>> with suggested donations of $2. That was a big can of worms. (Toilet<br>
>> paper is another gimme, but: it would be Excellent if anyone buying TP<br>
>> would consider it a donation.)<br>
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