As a medium-term visitor, I'm looking forward to your conscious effort<br>to decrease your comments and start doing things. This mailing list<br>has really hit a low in terms of usefulness this week.<br><br> mike<br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Patrick Keys <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
This is my final comment before I make a conscious effort to seriously<br>
decrease my comments altogether for awhile...<br>
<br>
As a new visitor myself, it feels like there's a growing rift between<br>
new visitors versus long-time visitors. I respect that the long-time<br>
visitors helped bring this space together, know more about the vision of<br>
the space, and make a conscious effort to keep noisebridge alive.<br>
<br>
That said, most of the long-time visitors don't actually show up that<br>
often. And when they do, the vibe I personally get is one of<br>
entitlement as if to say "i own this and you're just a guest".<br>
<br>
On the other hand, some of us, like me, use this space as our personal<br>
office. This is normal for some other hackerspaces, like Hacker Dojo.<br>
Basically, people work long hours at the space, take legitimate naps<br>
there, do some collaborating, and get a lot done.<br>
<br>
The issue is when you spend all day here working and then long-time<br>
visitors show up and act like you're in their way. I'm not talking<br>
about anybody in particular, that's just my general observation. The<br>
response from newer visitors, in turn, is animosity to the long-timers.<br>
The result kinda feels like "us-versus-them".<br>
<br>
That's just my observation. I think making the space feel welcome for<br>
everybody, long-time and new alike, requires effort from everybody.<br>
<br>
<br>
Patrick<br>
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