maybe something more like this?<br><br><a href="http://www.stress.com/consumertier3.php?pid=307">http://www.stress.com/consumertier3.php?pid=307</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Sean Cusack <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sean.p.cusack@gmail.com">sean.p.cusack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Yeah - I was looking at these thingies. Here's a link:<br><br><a href="http://www.mreinfo.com/us/mre/frh.html" target="_blank">http://www.mreinfo.com/us/mre/frh.html</a><br>
<br>However, I feel this is another one of those times that the intarweb is not a reliable source. These two lines are within a bulleted list of each other on the same page:<br>
<br>-"An FRH heats food without the need for fire - safely and quickly" ... sounds like a great solution, no?!<br>-"Vapors released by activated heater contain hydrogen, a flammable gas." ... which is sort of the opposite of "safely"...particularly in an enclosed space like we'll have<br>
<br>Something tells me that when the DHS sees a package that can generate hydrogen with a bunch of wires attached to it in an enclosed space, the big red $100mil$ TERRERIST warning light will start flashing somewhere and a door will get kicked in. Suck. Though it could be really funny since they'll spend hours analyzing the cupcake batter trying to figure out what kind of explosive it is.<br>
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<br>Sean<br></font><br>P.S.> I particularly like the illustration in the instructions that designates you should be using a "rock or something". Wow. Way to go private IQ 35.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Jonathan Foote <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jtfoote@ieee.org" target="_blank">jtfoote@ieee.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Aren't there all kinds of crazy exothermic reactions -- like NaOH +<br>
H2O -- that the military uses to heat prepackaged food and such?<br>
Likely too reactive to ship without hazmat status, but...?<br>
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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Sean Cusack <<a href="mailto:sean.p.cusack@gmail.com" target="_blank">sean.p.cusack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I was actually just talking over this idea with the other chemists at lunch,<br>
> and I think it would be unlikely that we'll be able to generate enough heat<br>
> out of these without using a retarded amount - like about 100 or so (damn<br>
> you thermodynamics!). We could maybe build a super-insulated box with a<br>
> thermocouple in it to see how hot one of them gets, and then try to scale<br>
> it...<br>
><br>
> Sean<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Lilia Markham <<a href="mailto:liliakai@gmail.com" target="_blank">liliakai@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I have a surplus of hand warming packets that i can bring if anyone wants<br>
>> to experiment with them...<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Sean Cusack <<a href="mailto:sean.p.cusack@gmail.com" target="_blank">sean.p.cusack@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'm down with doing the freezing stuff on the 15th. I can arrange to get<br>
>>> the cold shit over to noisebridge.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sean<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:16 PM, meredith scheff <<a href="mailto:satiredun@gmail.com" target="_blank">satiredun@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Now we're getting into Shipyard style packing :)<br>
>>>> Seems we have a battle of Hot Ideas and Cold Ideas.<br>
>>>> I like the handwarmer idea on principle, but two things:<br>
>>>> They never get anywhere near 350<br>
>>>> icing is important!<br>
>>>> I really like the freeze the fuck out of it solution.<br>
>>>> When is the day? the 15th? I vote we make as many ideas as possible.<br>
>>>> mer<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Michael Shiloh<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Is it possible to cook rapidly by using some sort of explosion? Can<br>
>>>>> this<br>
>>>>> be controlled sufficiently for cooking?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 01/06/2011 12:03 PM, Lilia Markham wrote:<br>
>>>>> > If we can just prevent the receiving hackerspace from ever opening<br>
>>>>> > the<br>
>>>>> > package, our cupcake would occupy a superposition of all possible<br>
>>>>> > cupcake states. We can decorate it with a little icing cat face.<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Sean Cusack <<a href="mailto:sean.p.cusack@gmail.com" target="_blank">sean.p.cusack@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:sean.p.cusack@gmail.com" target="_blank">sean.p.cusack@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > The handwarmers thing could totally work, right? We don't need it<br>
>>>>> > to<br>
>>>>> > stay hot for hours, just 350 - 400 for like 30 minutes! If we do<br>
>>>>> > a<br>
>>>>> > good enough job with the insulation, the UPS guy shouldn't even<br>
>>>>> > know<br>
>>>>> > anything happened. Worst case, if DHS confiscates out<br>
>>>>> > cupcake...I'd<br>
>>>>> > laugh my ass off. The terrorcake strikes again!!!!!<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > I think the kicker would be activating the handwarmers at the<br>
>>>>> > right<br>
>>>>> > time, and only the right time. I think the handwarmers activate<br>
>>>>> > upon<br>
>>>>> > touching air, right? I wonder if we could open a bunch of them in<br>
>>>>> > a<br>
>>>>> > glovebox and put them into an inert box with the ready to bake<br>
>>>>> > cupcake. The inert box would have a little door on it that could<br>
>>>>> > open when an Arduino uses some craaazy GPS wizardry thingy to<br>
>>>>> > determine when the UPS guy is almost at the destination.<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > What do people think? Is this reasonable? We don't do anything<br>
>>>>> > air<br>
>>>>> > sensitive enough in my lab to warrant a glovebox though. Anyone<br>
>>>>> > have<br>
>>>>> > access to something like that?<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Sean<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Lilia Markham <<a href="mailto:liliakai@gmail.com" target="_blank">liliakai@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:liliakai@gmail.com" target="_blank">liliakai@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > If we deliberately make the package look like a bomb, will it<br>
>>>>> > receive more delicate handling??<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > public archive disclaimer: the above question is intended to<br>
>>>>> > be<br>
>>>>> > farcical and humorous. I do not in any way condone sending<br>
>>>>> > suspicious looking things through the us postal service. also<br>
>>>>> > i<br>
>>>>> > love my country and all the federal agents reading my email<br>
>>>>> > and<br>
>>>>> > their families.<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Patrick Keys<br>
>>>>> > <<a href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com" target="_blank">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com" target="_blank">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Is this a cupcake or a bomb? Our cupcake "package" is<br>
>>>>> > going<br>
>>>>> > to get<br>
>>>>> > confiscated by Homeland Security and never arrive at its<br>
>>>>> > destination.<br>
>>>>> > The unabomber of cupcakes.<br>
>>>>> > :-)<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > Patrick<br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> ><br>
>>>>> > On 1/5/2011 6:18 PM, Liz Henry wrote:<br>
>>>>> > > On 1/5/11 5:42 PM, Lilia Markham wrote:<br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > >> I liked the idea of a self-baking cupcake. In fact I<br>
>>>>> > have had multiple<br>
>>>>> > >> conversations theorizing portable, self-baking cakes<br>
>>>>> > and<br>
>>>>> > cookies in the<br>
>>>>> > >> past. They would be great for camping, picnics...car<br>
>>>>> > eaters? (We're gonna be<br>
>>>>> > >> so rich!) Sadly, I fear that the only way to generate<br>
>>>>> > the necessary heat is<br>
>>>>> > >> to include some form of auto-igniting flammable<br>
>>>>> > materials or questionable<br>
>>>>> > >> chemicals. The post office just loves when you send<br>
>>>>> > that<br>
>>>>> > kind of stuff<br>
>>>>> > >> through the mail. :-\<br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > > I wonder if a cupcake could bake very very slowly<br>
>>>>> > using those<br>
>>>>> > > handwarmers you can buy in a drugstore? Or for skiing?<br>
>>>>> > They don't get<br>
>>>>> > > very hot. But maybe they could be rigged up to break<br>
>>>>> > when<br>
>>>>> > a box is<br>
>>>>> > > opened, and then the cooking device would open up<br>
>>>>> > based<br>
>>>>> > on a timer.<br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > > Or, ship a cupcake positioned inside an EZ-bake oven,<br>
>>>>> > maybe just by<br>
>>>>> > > being completely encased in foil, with a power source<br>
>>>>> > connected to the<br>
>>>>> > > EZ Bake Oven, with a switch that is turned on by<br>
>>>>> > opening<br>
>>>>> > the box. The<br>
>>>>> > > sugary topping could be ... uh that is where I lose<br>
>>>>> > it.<br>
>>>>> > Sugary topping.<br>
>>>>> > > Hmmm.<br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > > - Liz<br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
>>>>> > ><br>
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