<p>I'm definitely interested! Our consensus process is clearly a little broken but I don't really know too much about how to improve it.� Aestetix recently said something like "the point of consensus is that we never reach it."� This is kind of like the reason I like using windows - since nothing has ever Just Worked, I know how to fix, jimmy, and reset all kind of things.� It would be cool if we had a parallel OS option for decision-making in our space that did actually work, for when do-ocracy just isn't enough.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 2, 2011 12:34 AM, "Jared Dunne" <<a href="mailto:jareddunne@gmail.com">jareddunne@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Is anyone else interested in something like what Shannon proposed?<br>
> <br>>>> I'd still like to do a seminar-style class-thing on Consensus process; I'm<br>>>> imagining it as a set of lightning talks interspersed with Q&A and<br>>>> Discussion periods. Anybody have experience with consensus process outside<br>
>>> of Noisebridge who is willing to give a five-minute "how we did it at X"<br>>>> talk? Anybody want to try giving the five-minute "how Noisebridge works"<br>>>> talk? (I think we should have at least three of the "How Noisebridge Works"<br>
>>> talks from three people with different perspectives...)<br>> <br>> I'd really like to see something happen even if its simply an informal<br>> discussion about Consensus at Noisebridge past, present, future. It<br>
> would be nice to get together everyone who wants to do some Consensus<br>> Hacking to chat it out in more depth.<br>> <br>> I'd be happy to organize or facilitate something if there is<br>> sufficient interest.<br>
> <br>> j-<br>> <br>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Jared Dunne <<a href="mailto:jareddunne@gmail.com">jareddunne@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> Shannon-<br>>><br>>> I like this idea. �I've used Consensus before in some anti-war groups.<br>
>> �I'd be happy to talk briefly about that experience.<br>>><br>>> I'm all for Autonomous action (do-acracy as NB calls it), but when<br>>> using consensus to work together we can do more than we can acting<br>
>> autonomously as individuals. �It's strange that consensus seems to be<br>>> feared and avoided at NB. �I'm newish here so hearing someone give a<br>>> talk on NB's experience with Consensus would be great to understand<br>
>> more about why that's the case.<br>>><br>>> Depending on when you schedule this... and if I can get a chance to<br>>> re-read that handbook I donated... �I could give an overview of some<br>
>> of the key insights it adds to the discussion.<br>>><br>>> Jared-<br>>><br>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Shannon Lee <<a href="mailto:shannon@scatter.com">shannon@scatter.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> To resurrect an old thread with new information, Jared bought us a copy of<br>>>> "Consensus: A New Handbook for Grassroots Social, Political, and<br>>>> Environmental Groups" by Peter Gelderloos<br>
>>> <a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2011-January/020237.html">https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2011-January/020237.html</a><br>>>><br>>>> I'd still like to do a seminar-style class-thing on Consensus process; I'm<br>
>>> imagining it as a set of lightning talks interspersed with Q&A and<br>>>> Discussion periods. �Anybody have experience with consensus process outside<br>>>> of Noisebridge who is willing to give a five-minute "how we did it at X"<br>
>>> talk? �Anybody want to try giving the five-minute "how Noisebridge works"<br>>>> talk? �(I think we should have at least three of the "How Noisebridge Works"<br>>>> talks from three people with different perspectives...)<br>
>>> --S<br>>>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Shannon Lee <<a href="mailto:shannon@scatter.com">shannon@scatter.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>> Hi,<br>>>>> I realized in watching the last couple of threads that there are people<br>
>>>> here who know a *lot* about running anarchist and consensus organizations.<br>>>>> Would any of you be willing to put together a reading list, or possibly<br>>>>> hold a symposium of some sort, on how this stuff works, and how it's<br>
>>>> supposed to work?<br>>>>> Thanks,<br>>>>> --S<br>>>>><br>>>>> --<br>>>>> Shannon Lee<br>>>>> (503) 539-3700<br>>>>><br>>>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."<br>
>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> --<br>>>> Shannon Lee<br>>>> (503) 539-3700<br>>>><br>>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."<br>
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