<p>That was also back when Isky was only playing video games on it, which is also a source of social friction at Noisebridge.</p>
<p>-Al</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 3, 2011 11:29 PM, "lilia" <<a href="mailto:liliakai@gmail.com">liliakai@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> FWIW, Isky's machine used to be located at the reverse engineering<br>
> bar, where it eventually became the source of social friction similar<br>> to that which we are seeing now, and which may have contributed to its<br>> relocation to the classroom in the first place.<br>> <br>
> <br>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Danny O'Brien <<a href="mailto:danny@spesh.com">danny@spesh.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Albert Sweigart <<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com">asweigart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>>>> Rather than try to change everyone else, it would be easier if Isky<br>>>> moved his computer out of the classroom, or just moved it home instead<br>>>> of using Noisebridge as his personal long-term storage for his<br>
>>> larger-than-a-member-shelf things.<br>>>><br>>>> Isky was asked by multiple people to move his computer somewhere else,<br>>>> and he just blows them off. Isky gets asked by multiple people to<br>
>>> actually work on projects instead of just using the space as his<br>>>> living room, and he just blows them off. I don't think the problem is<br>>>> people not being assertive enough with him.<br>
>>><br>>><br>>> I imagine Isky is getting heavily conflicting suggestions from all of<br>>> Noisebridge on this. Some people seem to assertively want him to move the<br>>> desktop or take it home, others probably tell him it's nice to have the<br>
>> desktop there, and that he's not in the way, and it's great that it's<br>>> available for use. I don't think it's unusual in that situation to prefer<br>>> the advice of the people who you already agree with.<br>
>><br>>>> Isky is going to continue to do whatever he wants. Sometimes that fits<br>>>> well with others, sometimes it doesn't. But that doesn't influence<br>>>> Isky's behavior.<br>
>><br>>><br>>>><br>>>> -Al<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Liz Henry <<a href="mailto:liz@bookmaniac.org">liz@bookmaniac.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> > On 2/3/11 5:44 PM, Shannon Lee wrote:<br>>>> ><br>>>> >>> The trouble is, Turing is currently<br>>>> >>> *always* in use, because someone's always camped on that PC."<br>
>>> ><br>>>> > I don't think that's a trouble! It means the room is in use and<br>>>> > someone's around keeping an eye on things. That's good! I like the<br>>>> > people camped on desktops in various rooms. I like it that there are<br>
>>> > people who spend all day at Noisebridge. They end up being awesome<br>>>> > custodians of the space and should get respect for that.<br>>>> ><br>>>> > People who have trouble asking other people to move out of the room<br>
>>> > because a group wants to use it for a class, could ask other<br>>>> > Noisebridgers to give them an extra class for role-playing out assertive<br>>>> > and polite ways to ask, as practice.<br>
>>> ><br>>>> > I'd happily teach that class (once I am over this month-long bronchitis)<br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> > - Liz<br>
>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> > --<br>>>> > Liz Henry<br>>>> > <a href="mailto:lizhenry@gmail.com">lizhenry@gmail.com</a><br>>>> > <a href="http://bookmaniac.org">http://bookmaniac.org</a><br>
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