The fundamental fallacy with declaring excellence is that, because everyone has a different view, any action has both excellence and un-excellent qualities to it. I feel one of the points of us using this as our one "rule" is to help remind people that in knee-deep drama, there always *is* a positive way to look at things.<div>
<br></div><div>This also means that, even if we got the entire membership to agree on something, or even communicate with each other at all, it would be forced and trite at best. Further, some people would feel pressured to "agree" by others, and rather than voicing their actual opinion they'd go along with the crowd to avoid conflict. </div>
<div><br></div><div>In any case, what I feel is most excellent right now is finishing my ice-cream while listening to Mozart and watching porn, and enjoying majestic mental images.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Albert Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com">asweigart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">* Isky isn't on trial. Some people have a problem with his behavior<br>
and are discussing it on the email list. That's all.<br>
<br>
* This is specifically about Isky, and specifically about him keeping<br>
his desktop in the Turing classroom on a long term basis.<br>
<br>
* Personally, I think if the membership came together, decided if<br>
keeping personal desktops in the classrooms was excellent behavior or<br>
not with everyone having an equal say, and then wrote this decision<br>
down, we could avoid a lot of drama. Otherwise this email thread will<br>
continue until everyone is emotionally drained, nothing will be<br>
resolved, and this or a problem like it will flare up again in a few<br>
months.<br>
<br>
-Al<br>
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On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Praveen Sinha <<a href="mailto:dmhomee@gmail.com">dmhomee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Urgh... I can't beleive I'm getting sucked in to drama, but...<br>
><br>
> Seriously is Isky on trial or something? Is he Mubarak? If we are talking<br>
> about Isky in a huge email drama thread, then who else are we going to talk<br>
> about next??? Noisebridge is and should be an open space for people to<br>
> interact in their own ways. I realize that people are coming forward to<br>
> defend him, but he shouldn't /have/ to be defended.<br>
><br>
> Shunning people from noisebridge because the don't fit a social mold will<br>
> only ensure the alienation of the best and brightest.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Josh Myer <<a href="mailto:josh@joshisanerd.com">josh@joshisanerd.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM, jim <<a href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> isky shares his computer with others, and seems to<br>
>>> me pretty freely.<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> We don't have rules, but it seems like the general pattern in the past has<br>
>> been "Keep your stuff on your shelf, or, if it doesn't fit on your shelf,<br>
>> label it." A shuttle PC will fit on a shelf, easily.<br>
>> It seems like there's another underlying issue people are skirting around,<br>
>> which is that Isky is constantly at the space, and rarely seems to be doing<br>
>> anything beyond hanging out.<br>
>> --<br>
>> Josh Myer <a href="tel:+14152309791">415.230.9791</a> <-- NOTE: New number!<br>
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