<p>All you need is the appropriate connector and a battery pack at the correct voltage.</p>
<p>On Feb 21, 2011 2:39 PM, "Patrick Keys" <<a href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> If you want to make the setup battery-powered, what specifically do you <br>
> need? For example, the open heart kit I made last week. If I got a <br>> boarduino and ftdi cable, what else specifically do I need to make it <br>> battery-powered?<br>> <br>> <br>> Patrick<br>> <br>
> <br>> On 2/21/2011 12:09 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:<br>>> Hi Jared,<br>>><br>>> Yes, you got it.<br>>><br>>> Buying one clone plus one FTDI cable costs more than one Arduino. But<br>>> two clones plus one FTDI cable (which is all you need to program both)<br>
>> costs much less than one Arduino. And then the FTDI cable can be used<br>>> for other DIY projects as well, including non-Arduino ones.<br>>><br>>> If you are only going to be using one Arduino, then it's not worth<br>
>> getting a clone plus an clone.<br>>><br>>> Mitch.<br>>><br>>><br>>> ---------------------------<br>>> > From: <a href="mailto:jareddunne@gmail.com">jareddunne@gmail.com</a><br>
>> > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:41:27 -0800<br>>> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Arduino Buying Tips?<br>>> > To: <a href="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com">maltman23@hotmail.com</a><br>>> > CC: <a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
>> ><br>>> > Mitch-<br>>> ><br>>> > Thanks for the helpful reply.<br>>> ><br>>> > So it seems that you view the clone + FTDI as an added feature, in<br>>> > that you can program your arduino using your FTDI cable then<br>
>> > disconnect, then optionally reuse the same cable for connecting some<br>>> > other project needing USB connectivity?<br>>> ><br>>> > Perhaps that logic helps explain why clone+FTDI cable might cost more<br>
>> > than Arduino+USB cable.<br>>> ><br>>> > Jared-<br>>> ><br>>> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Mitch Altman <<a href="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com">maltman23@hotmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>>> > > We also have Volksduinos. The functionality of BoArduino and<br>>> Volksduino are<br>>> > > exactly the same as Duemilenove with ATmega328 -- with the<br>>> exception that<br>
>> > > you needn an FTDI cable. The BoArduino has a smaller form factor<br>>> than the<br>>> > > Duemilenove, since it is designed to be used in a solderless<br>>> breadboard.<br>>> > > The Volksduino has the exact same form factor as the Duemilenove.<br>
>> > ><br>>> > > I also have some Diavolino kits at home, made by Evil Mad<br>>> Scientist, which<br>>> > > is also exactly the same as the Duemilenove functionally, except<br>
>> without the<br>>> > > FTDI cable, and without the 5v regulator (which you don't need if<br>>> you will<br>>> > > be running it from batteries (three AA batteries) or from your<br>
>> computer's<br>>> > > USB power.<br>>> > ><br>>> > > The tradeoffs of USB with the Arduino and clones:<br>>> > > Clones usually do not have a USB chip, since they are expensive. So,<br>
>> > > if you dedicate your Aduino (with a USB chip) to a project, you are<br>>> > > essentially wasting that USB chip, since it is only used to program the<br>>> > > Arduino. But, if you buy a clone without the USB chip, you need an FTDI<br>
>> > > cable, which has the USB chip in it (FTDI is the name of the<br>>> company that<br>>> > > makes these USB chips, and they sell the cable that has the chip in<br>>> it, this<br>
>> > > is why the cable is called "FTDI cable"). However, you only need<br>>> one FTDI<br>>> > > cable for all of your projects, and it works on all Arduino clones,<br>>> plus<br>
>> > > lots of other DIY projects (which often do not have a USB chip).<br>>> > ><br>>> > > Mitch.<br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > > ----------------------<br>
>> > >> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 01:58:06 -0800<br>>> > >> From: <a href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a><br>>> > >> To: <a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Arduino Buying Tips?<br>>> > >><br>>> > >> Mitch already has Boarduinos for sale, so you can conveniently get one<br>>> > >> Monday night. Miloh also has one or two inexpensive "prolific hookup"<br>
>> > >> cables that he may part with that are less expensive than the FTDI<br>>> > >> usb-to-serial cables. Whatever arduino or clone you go with, you'll<br>>> > >> need some sort of usb-to-serial cable to program it.<br>
>> > >><br>>> > >><br>>> > >> Patrick<br>>> > >><br>>> > >><br>>> > >><br>>> > >> On 2/21/2011 1:52 AM, Jared Dunne wrote:<br>
>> > >> > Hi All-<br>>> > >> ><br>>> > >> > Any warnings or tips for a first time Arduino buyer?<br>>> > >> ><br>>> > >> > I was currently considering either the Arduino UNO or Arduino<br>
>> > >> > Duemilanove w/ ATmega328. They seem like the most ubiquitous<br>>> options.<br>>> > >> > I like that there are all sorts of shields designed for them. I like<br>>> > >> > that I can just use a standard USB cable for power/programming. I<br>
>> > >> > don't have any specific project requirements, but I'd like something<br>>> > >> > that is versatile enough, so I will be able to use it for a<br>>> variety of<br>
>> > >> > ideas without hitting too many limitations.<br>>> > >> ><br>>> > >> > Does it matter if I get the newer UNO versus the Duemilanove<br>>> > >> > ATmega328? Is there something altogether different I should be<br>
>> > >> > considering?<br>>> > >> ><br>>> > >> > I have considered the Boarduino/Volksduino kit but would prefer<br>>> > >> > something I can start hacking with out of the box.<br>
>> > >> ><br>>> > >> > Thanks in advance for any advice!<br>>> > >> ><br>>> > >> > Jared-<br>>> > >> > _______________________________________________<br>
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