<div dir="ltr">Super thanks Jason & Lilia! <div><br><div>I don't think we need to repaint them (But feel free to you promise to try to do a better job than they already are painted). Stickers should do the trick, I'll do it next time I'm there, and ill make a little sign above the rack describing the two bikes and as soon as I get my bike key back I'll be sure to leave it in the lock! (It's not currently in my possession).</div>
<div><br></div><div>i would like for there to be two community bikes, i think its an optimal number for a community of our size, i don't like biking alone half as much as with someone, and most times people have borrowed them (many many people) they've borrowed them together. </div>
<div><br></div><div>The Green frame one has very iffy brakes, get used to them before you NEED them. His name is Christ.</div><div><br></div><div>Meredith, that's not what I said at all. </div><div><br></div><div>So CAN anyone claim the silver bike on rack 1?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Kelly <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hurtstotouchfire@gmail.com">hurtstotouchfire@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I have noticed a lot of complaints about the bike rack being full. I<br>
put notes on a couple of them, which is how we've dealt with abandoned<br>
bikes in the past.<br>
<br>
I think that having community bikes is cool, but not sub-community<br>
bikes. They should be genuinely open to everyone's use. Having one<br>
person who keeps a key to them isn't really a good solution. Can't we<br>
just keep U locks and keys with the bikes? I don't really see the<br>
benefit of one person keeping the locks.<br>
<br>
Also, since they aren't apparently community bikes yet, let's start<br>
with one maybe and see how that works?<br>
<br>
We should probably paint it appropriately. Or at least sticker it liberally.<br>
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-Kelly<br>
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On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 23:13, Albert Sweigart <<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com">asweigart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> 1) We run out of space for bikes more often than that. Mondays and<br>
> Tuesdays (and sometimes Wednesdays) are when the bike racks fill up,<br>
> and people then have to leave their bikes leaning against the other<br>
> bikes.<br>
><br>
> 2) They are not communal bikes. There's no sign saying that the<br>
> community is free to use them, or anything to indicate to people that<br>
> they are not privately owned bicycles. You've told me yourself that<br>
> you and a few of your friends ride them, and that you'd like to keep<br>
> that info on the down-low.<br>
><br>
> 3) Communal bikes aren't very helpful if they don't have communal<br>
> u-locks to go with them, unless someone is taking them home or to some<br>
> other place where they don't need to lock them up. But you can't take<br>
> them for a trip down to Walgreens or grabbing a burrito.<br>
><br>
> The bikes should either be labeled as open for people to use and with<br>
> locks provided, or they should be taken home instead of taking up<br>
> shared space.<br>
><br>
> -Al<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:04 PM, meredith scheff <<a href="mailto:satiredun@gmail.com">satiredun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I'd be down for communal bikes if they're clearly labeled and promoted as<br>
>> such. Earlier when I was there you were saying they're only available 'for,<br>
>> like, 6 people' that were deemed, i dunno, worthy?<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Patrick Keys <<a href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'm taking Isky's side on this. And not just because he's the only<br>
>>> person at Noisebridge to ever give me a hug.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'm taking Isky's side because I vaguely remember Frantisek's "fairwell<br>
>>> speech" before he left recently. He basically told us that Noisebridge<br>
>>> could use a couple extra communcal bikes and it would be unfortunate to<br>
>>> see them go. I remember thinking even then that was a cool idea. I<br>
>>> agree with Frantisek.<br>
>>><br>
>>> This is San Francisco, lots of people ride bikes, I've seen several<br>
>>> visitors at Noisebridge use those bikes, and that wall is almost totally<br>
>>> empty 99% of the time. I say just leave the bikes.<br>
>>><br>
>>> People... all this silly drama. Now drama over riding bikes. Where is<br>
>>> the love?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Enjoy this awesome picture of Miloh bike-riding all over the inside of<br>
>>> Noisebridge:<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="http://gallery.noisebridge.net/2169MissionBuildout/MilohBikesAroundClearFloor.JPG" target="_blank">http://gallery.noisebridge.net/2169MissionBuildout/MilohBikesAroundClearFloor.JPG</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Patrick<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 2/22/2011 6:26 PM, lilia wrote:<br>
>>> > I had heard mentions of communal bikes at the space but had no idea<br>
>>> > which ones they were or who maintained them or what if any<br>
>>> > rules/policies governed their use. I am thrilled to finally hear the<br>
>>> > whole story.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Perhaps this should all be documented on the wiki and the bikes<br>
>>> > labeled with a link to that page to avoid future confusion of this<br>
>>> > nature! That would be most excellent IMHO.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Always nice to hear your voice on this list, Isky. Your positivity is<br>
>>> > a boon to Noisebridge.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > --lilia<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Jason Dusek<<a href="mailto:jason.dusek@gmail.com">jason.dusek@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> >> I am actually totally fine with people using my bike as a common<br>
>>> >> bicycle. (It's bike #2, the red Bianchi.)<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> If you need to repair it in ways that involve the special hex keys,<br>
>>> >> let me know; I have the wrench on me most of the time.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> I remember a while back, David Stainton used that bike for parts for<br>
>>> >> his bike; guess the parts are back.<br>
>>> >><br>
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