It could be said that "Jeet Kune Do" or MMA is a self defense hack of whatever martial arts systems work within a particular setting or situation. But i'm not aware of any place in the bay area that really teaches that. The closest i can think of in terms of a particular martial school of thought would be Krav Magra but i'm not sure where there are any in the Noisebridge area.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Shannon Lee <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shannon@scatter.com">shannon@scatter.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Well, I think that rather than focusing on whether a particular activity is "hacking" or not, we talk about whether it's an appropriate use of a venue which exists to serve the needs of a community of hackers; and in my experience, martial arts is definitely a Hacker Interest (tho mostly as something hackers *know* about, rather than something hackers *do* necessarily).<div>
<br></div><div>That said, there are lots of great martial arts studios in San Francisco -- some of the best Kung Fu and BJJ studios in the world, in fact, and quantum martial arts is nice and friendly and right up at 20th and mission -- so it seems redundant to teach homespun martial arts classes unless we can genuinely come up with a serious "hacker spin" -- "self defense for pudgy, under-muscled software engineers" for example... </div>
<div><br></div><div>I'd be interested in a western martial arts spin; and you can absolutely tie that into hackerdom because it can double as LARP research :) </div><div><br></div><div>--S<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Forrest Flanagan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:solenoidclock@gmail.com" target="_blank">solenoidclock@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Padding and cross training, respectively.<div><br></div><div>I just think it's a stretch to say that a thing which is studied, or even improved upon, is being hacked. I don't think it's accurate to say that practicing martial arts or even practicing variants that you think would work better could be called hacking. I don't think that using software on a graphing calculator or studying abacus use is a hack for mathematics either. There may be abacus and graphing calculator hacks, respectively, but math is still math just as defense is still defense.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It's a crappy argument though, and it has nothing to do with whether or not people want to learn self defense at a hackerspace. <div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">One could hack martial arts to be less painful or combine multiple types of martial arts to have a non lethal hand to hand combat system. Just saying. <div>
<div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Forrest Flanagan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:solenoidclock@gmail.com" target="_blank">solenoidclock@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">How is this hacking? Like is he going to teach some techniques for incapacitating someone with a leatherman multi-tool or something? Maybe point out existing flaws in various martial arts techniques?<div>
<br></div><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px">"You see officer, he tried to social engineer me out of my wallet with a hacked beer bottle so I penetration tested his abdomen with these here wire strippers"</span><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><div><div></div><div>On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:35 AM, seidos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kdemarest@gmail.com" target="_blank">kdemarest@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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is anyone interested in "self-defense" hacking? i have a friend that teaches Jujitsu, another friend that teaches Aikido, and i have had training in tae kwan do and BJJ.<br clear="all"><font color="#888888"><br>
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