I think a lot of people are having this idea that other human beings are
going to be thrown around and doing acrobatics. It seems clear that
Noisebridge isn't the place for this. Also, not all martial arts has to do with these things, and there are many aspects that can be explored indoors, without danger of harming others. <br><br>Bruce, can you, perhaps, explain a little bit of what exploring your practice might entail?<br>
<br>I saw a documentary which showed immigrant Shaolin Monks who studied martial aspects of Shaolin to the extreme (and used them to make a living), but then some realized that without studying Dao, they would never fully understand the martial art.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Bruce Wolfe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com">brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<font size="4"><font face="comic sans ms,sans-serif">Yes, I've seen the space. The practice I was offering doesn't require any of that. For other styles, sure, maybe you're right. What I am offering would benefit everyone if they so choose to participate.<br>
<br>But, if you choose not to even explore it, I'll take the offer off the table.<br><br>When you figure it out, let me know.<br><br>Thanx,<br><font color="#888888">Bruce<br><br></font></font></font><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Ryan Rawson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ryanobjc@gmail.com" target="_blank">ryanobjc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I also dont think it'd be a good idea to do martial arts at the space.<br>
Have you actually SEEN the space? You cant stretch your arms out<br>
without knocking something down, so throwing people or other practices<br>
seem incompatible with owning table saws.<br>
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Bruce Wolfe <<a href="mailto:brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com" target="_blank">brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I don't agree. Why not? No.<br>
><br>
> And, one person's opinion shouldn't rule out the whole discussion when many<br>
> others struck up the interest.<br>
><br>
> Bruce<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Ronald Cotoni <<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> This is a bad idea. let's not do this at the space. Can we also drop<br>
>> this thread?<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Bruce Wolfe <<a href="mailto:brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com" target="_blank">brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I failed to finish ogf a sentence.<br>
>>><br>
>>> With regards to all the practice and styles I've learned, the internal<br>
>>> understanding is essential for the techniques to work effectively as opposed<br>
>>> to sometimes harmful and excessive repetition of movements.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Also, with regards to weapons, of those I have trained with, it takes far<br>
>>> more skill and training to use a weapon than to protect oneself by learning<br>
>>> how to disarm a perpetrator.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ultimately, one prevention is the best protection. The best self defense<br>
>>> is the ability to avoid or neutralize confrontation.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best,<br>
>>> Bruce<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Apr 9, 2011 8:45 AM, "Bruce Wolfe" <<a href="mailto:brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com" target="_blank">brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> > Rameen,<br>
>>> > I agree with what you say with the exception that learning some move to<br>
>>> > protect oneself in the Mission. It's a little misleading as most people<br>
>>> > do<br>
>>> > not have natural composure to be able to use any technique or form when<br>
>>> > a<br>
>>> > confrontation arises. Some email threads demonstrate that alone.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I am not saying don't learn any martial art techniques but to, at<br>
>>> > least,<br>
>>> > understand your body and mind, and them what your energy feels like<br>
>>> > first so<br>
>>> > those moves will actually work.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Additionally, nothing about what I suggest is "passive" and void of<br>
>>> > martial<br>
>>> > art or principles. It's of the internsl school of martial art of which<br>
>>> > Aikido, Jeet Kun Do, Hapkido, Xingyi, etc., are members of.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Bruce Lee's famous principles of JKD is another good example of how<br>
>>> > important the internal work is before external: Form is no form.<br>
>>> > Understanding oneself is essential for effectiveness of the martial<br>
>>> > art.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I just find after all the years of practice from Judo to Shotokan to<br>
>>> > Goju<br>
>>> > Ryu to Praying Mantis and other External School Kung Fu styles to T'ai<br>
>>> > Chi<br>
>>> > and other Chinese Internal School styles that understanding how to get<br>
>>> > your<br>
>>> > soup to stir the spoon.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Finally, I'm not interested in debating what should/could/would be<br>
>>> > taught as<br>
>>> > a meaningful experience that speaks to all at every level of skill. I'm<br>
>>> > just<br>
>>> > interested and making an offer to share what I know as an element of<br>
>>> > the<br>
>>> > whole exercise.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > If concensus is not interested that's okay. I'm just making the offer<br>
>>> > with<br>
>>> > some substance of its efficacy.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Bruce<br>
>>> > On Apr 8, 2011 8:39 PM, "Rameen" <<a href="mailto:emprameen@gmail.com" target="_blank">emprameen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
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