<font size="4"><font face="comic sans ms,sans-serif">Yes, I've seen the space. The practice I was offering doesn't require any of that. For other styles, sure, maybe you're right. What I am offering would benefit everyone if they so choose to participate.<br>
<br>But, if you choose not to even explore it, I'll take the offer off the table.<br><br>When you figure it out, let me know.<br><br>Thanx,<br>Bruce<br><br></font></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Ryan Rawson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ryanobjc@gmail.com">ryanobjc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I also dont think it'd be a good idea to do martial arts at the space.<br>
Have you actually SEEN the space? You cant stretch your arms out<br>
without knocking something down, so throwing people or other practices<br>
seem incompatible with owning table saws.<br>
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Bruce Wolfe <<a href="mailto:brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com">brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I don't agree. Why not? No.<br>
><br>
> And, one person's opinion shouldn't rule out the whole discussion when many<br>
> others struck up the interest.<br>
><br>
> Bruce<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Ronald Cotoni <<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com">setient@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> This is a bad idea. let's not do this at the space. Can we also drop<br>
>> this thread?<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Bruce Wolfe <<a href="mailto:brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com">brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I failed to finish ogf a sentence.<br>
>>><br>
>>> With regards to all the practice and styles I've learned, the internal<br>
>>> understanding is essential for the techniques to work effectively as opposed<br>
>>> to sometimes harmful and excessive repetition of movements.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Also, with regards to weapons, of those I have trained with, it takes far<br>
>>> more skill and training to use a weapon than to protect oneself by learning<br>
>>> how to disarm a perpetrator.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ultimately, one prevention is the best protection. The best self defense<br>
>>> is the ability to avoid or neutralize confrontation.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best,<br>
>>> Bruce<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Apr 9, 2011 8:45 AM, "Bruce Wolfe" <<a href="mailto:brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com">brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> > Rameen,<br>
>>> > I agree with what you say with the exception that learning some move to<br>
>>> > protect oneself in the Mission. It's a little misleading as most people<br>
>>> > do<br>
>>> > not have natural composure to be able to use any technique or form when<br>
>>> > a<br>
>>> > confrontation arises. Some email threads demonstrate that alone.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I am not saying don't learn any martial art techniques but to, at<br>
>>> > least,<br>
>>> > understand your body and mind, and them what your energy feels like<br>
>>> > first so<br>
>>> > those moves will actually work.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Additionally, nothing about what I suggest is "passive" and void of<br>
>>> > martial<br>
>>> > art or principles. It's of the internsl school of martial art of which<br>
>>> > Aikido, Jeet Kun Do, Hapkido, Xingyi, etc., are members of.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Bruce Lee's famous principles of JKD is another good example of how<br>
>>> > important the internal work is before external: Form is no form.<br>
>>> > Understanding oneself is essential for effectiveness of the martial<br>
>>> > art.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I just find after all the years of practice from Judo to Shotokan to<br>
>>> > Goju<br>
>>> > Ryu to Praying Mantis and other External School Kung Fu styles to T'ai<br>
>>> > Chi<br>
>>> > and other Chinese Internal School styles that understanding how to get<br>
>>> > your<br>
>>> > soup to stir the spoon.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Finally, I'm not interested in debating what should/could/would be<br>
>>> > taught as<br>
>>> > a meaningful experience that speaks to all at every level of skill. I'm<br>
>>> > just<br>
>>> > interested and making an offer to share what I know as an element of<br>
>>> > the<br>
>>> > whole exercise.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > If concensus is not interested that's okay. I'm just making the offer<br>
>>> > with<br>
>>> > some substance of its efficacy.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Bruce<br>
>>> > On Apr 8, 2011 8:39 PM, "Rameen" <<a href="mailto:emprameen@gmail.com">emprameen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
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