Was left while researching proper disposal methods, as per the note I left, which I did, and now it's gone. <div>The end. </div><div>M<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:12 AM, rachel lyra hospodar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rachel@mediumreality.com">rachel@mediumreality.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Ha ha ha aha, so your hypothesis is that people are messier in reaction<br>
to a perceived cleanup effort, further that the cleanup effort had a<br>
specific beginning, and further that before that beginning people were<br>
less messy?<br>
<br>
My hypothesis is that people have always been messy, people who work to<br>
counter the mess send more emails than they used to, and that other<br>
people such as yourself are noticing the mess more than they used to as<br>
a result of this public awareness campaign.<br>
<br>
anyway, my solution in my personal space to the tension between<br>
chaos/order is to have bounded areas of chaos: places that it's ok to<br>
leave a mess while i am working on something, and containers within<br>
which a mess that fits into a category (ie, all the tools/materials<br>
relating to a specific area of exploration or project) is left in all<br>
its chaotic glory.<br>
<br>
I also don't like to leave my stuff out in people's way or in public<br>
spaces. Not everyone has that personal rule.<br>
<br>
I want to point out in a public-service-announcement kind of way that<br>
any soldering table is already covered in toxic chemicals. Especially<br>
those who bring children to the space will want to make sure food<br>
doesn't touch soldering work surfaces, as my understanding is that<br>
consuming lead is worse for kids than grownups.<br>
<br>
R.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
On 5/26/2011 8:01 PM, Brian Morris wrote:<br>
> Haven't you noticed the huge mess everywhere since the cleanup movement<br>
> has been going on ?<br>
><br>
> Many creative, otherwise considerate people have reactions to what feels<br>
> like too much organizing. I've been in internal conflict for years over<br>
> this issue. If there's a solution I'd like to hear about it.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Robby <<a href="mailto:robwasab@gmail.com">robwasab@gmail.com</a><br>
</div><div class="im">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:robwasab@gmail.com">robwasab@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Alright, there's a bunch of circuit board printing chemicals on the<br>
> soldering table as of this wednesday night and it took at least 60<br>
> percent of the workspace. Not to point fingers or anything, but<br>
> Meredith did it, she did it, it's a complete mess, don't point any<br>
> fingers if it is still there tomorrow morning. she did it, i don't<br>
> usually complain about messy stuff, but it was disgusting, i mean,<br>
> what if somebody was eating there, or drinking something, there's so<br>
> much crap there and they're like liquids, dangerous and toxic ones<br>
> at that.<br>
><br>
> -Robby Tong<br>
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