<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I think something that has been unclear in this discussion is the <span style="font-style: italic;">age </span>of whats being donated. When people dump 10 servers (HUGE) from 1991, thats when we have a problem. This was happening a lot lately which was why we had a huge pile of ewaste that myself, robert, rich and others did all the work to sort through.<br><br>however, if you are donating something reasonably new that has good parts, and I think this G5 does, there is nothing I find to be wrong with that. Getting rid of a broken G5 is not really a problem imo and lots of useful stuff can be taken from it. I would personally like to try to fix it.<br><br>It's the 1980's and 1990's crap that people dump here that is the real problem. Anything recent (like 5 years or so) is fair imo.<br><br>Zach<br><br>--- On <b>Sat,
6/4/11, jim <i><jim@systemateka.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: jim <jim@systemateka.com><br>Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: borken iMac G5<br>To: "Brian Morris" <cymraegish@gmail.com><br>Cc: noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net<br>Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 2:57 AM<br><br><div class="plainMail"><br> Brian's response makes sense to me. I'd like that <br>we err on the side of getting in too much stuff: I'm <br>willing to take stuff to the dump and other places <br>after a while. More stuff == more opportunities. <br><br><br><br>On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 19:29 -0700, Brian Morris wrote:<br>> (Disclaimer : I am a generalist)<br>> <br>> <br>> Video Editing G5 :<br>> <br>> Depends on what rez and what editing means to you. You want to do cut<br>> and paste, or do you want to do transitions and
complex filters ?<br>> Working with small clips (possibly reduced rez) and testing your ideas<br>> and then running them in batch mode if you have the patience ? Is 480p<br>> good enough, 720, 1080 ?<br>> <br>> G5 could do some of this. Linux is definitely faster for some things<br>> at least than MacOS, The more RAM the better. It don't think it would<br>> handle the 1080, not sure about the 720. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> If you want to do high end editing of hd video you need a new (twin)<br>> i7 (ie quad core) with an hd video card (or two) really. The video<br>> cards really do make a big difference.<br>> <br>> <br>> Maybe Video Editing otherwise:<br>> <br>> From a cursory look it seemed to me that Quagga is a Frankenstein<br>> monster, with an OK motherboard. If I am correct it could be refitted<br>> with a quad core cpu and a decent video card and more ram and a RAID<br>> on
the SATA (at least two drives striped in addition to the boot drive<br>> = the set up I used at home for a server), that would indeed be much<br>> more capable than the G5. <br>> <br>> If we are really desparate now, why not try for both of these ? As it<br>> is now they are probably about the same as Quagga really has a weak<br>> video card but better cpu, it is somewhat fixupable but takes $$ to do<br>> it.<br>> <br>> <br>> The Rest:<br>> <br>> Several of the older computers I know people use in Linux study group<br>> for practice and training. The two that recently came in, this week I<br>> talked with the guy who put them together from spare parts off the<br>> hacker shelves (he said) -- he says he is studying networking in<br>> school and he wants to use them to learn how to put a cluster together<br>> -- he may have trouble due to the machines being unequal (unbalanced)<br>> but I feel
that he should be welcome to try. The old P3 all in one is<br>> my current baby, the other two ancient iMacs I had some involvement<br>> with but as far as I am concerned they could be gently deposited<br>> outside hopefully put on the Free Stuff Craigs List with a time before<br>> hand they are going out, as they are attractive to some people and not<br>> broken, one has a functioning custom light ubuntu install I sweated<br>> over to get to be useable for basic stuff, and I would like if it were<br>> not trashed but I realize it is of limited use except for maybe a<br>> small child a granny or a few others (people terrified by computers)<br>> <br>> Then there are the embedded systems, the robot stuff in particular, I<br>> don't know much about that. <br>> <br>> Altogether:<br>> <br>> Don't see how a couple more systems for projects would hurt NB !<br>> <br>> The computers take up a lot less space than
the kitchen and the other<br>> shops spaces. I sometimes feel like some of the people into those<br>> other things don't like the computer stuff...<br>> <br>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM, rachel lyra hospodar<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:rachelyra@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=rachelyra@gmail.com">rachelyra@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Is that computer good enough to act as an actual, functional,<br>> video editing station? Because we do desperately need one of<br>> those.<br>> <br>> mediumreality.com<br>> <br>> <br>> On Jun 3, 2011 5:59 PM, "Shannon Lee" <<a ymailto="mailto:shannon@scatter.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=shannon@scatter.com">shannon@scatter.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>> > It says it's broken right in the subject.<br>> > <br>> > My point was to make it clear that Noisebridge is really,<br>> really not the<br>> > first place you should think of when you think, "where<br>> should I take my<br>> > broken computer?" unless the rest of the sentence is "so I<br>> can fix it up and<br>> > then take it home again."<br>> > <br>> > We
regularly spend money and volunteer effort on broken<br>> computers that<br>> > someone didn't want but didn't want to take responsibility<br>> for getting rid<br>> > of. A broken computer is not a gift you're bestowing, it's a<br>> responsibility<br>> > you're shirking.<br>> > <br>> > --S<br>> > <br>> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Brian Morris<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:cymraegish@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=cymraegish@gmail.com">cymraegish@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>
> <br>> >> Apologize for not sending to the list first off. Gmail<br>> makes it awkward.<br>> >> 'borken' was careless BTW..<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>> >> From: Brian Morris <<a ymailto="mailto:cymraegish@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=cymraegish@gmail.com">cymraegish@gmail.com</a>><br>> >> Date: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:47 PM<br>> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] borken iMac G5<br>> >> To: Shannon Lee <<a
ymailto="mailto:shannon@scatter.com" href="/mc/compose?to=shannon@scatter.com">shannon@scatter.com</a>><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> This offends me, feels unexcellent interpersonal relations.<br>> A G5 is not a<br>> >> useless crap computer. By comparison there is only one<br>> machine at NB that is<br>> >> stronger than a G5, the rest are a best half as good both<br>> in terms of speed<br>> >> and picture quality.<br>> >><br>> >><br>>
>><br>> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Shannon Lee<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:shannon@scatter.com" href="/mc/compose?to=shannon@scatter.com">shannon@scatter.com</a>> wrote:<br>> >><br>> >>> There is not a shortage of computers for hacking at<br>> Noisebridge, there is<br>> >>> a ruthless and efficient crap mafia making sure that<br>> Noisebridge doesn't<br>> >>> fill up with useless broken hardware. Broken computers are<br>> not at all in<br>> >>> short supply, and
seriously, nobody should consider<br>> bringing their broken<br>> >>> computer to Noisebridge unless there's a specific use for<br>> it.<br>> >>><br>> >>> --S<br>> >>><br>> >>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Brian Morris<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:cymraegish@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=cymraegish@gmail.com">cymraegish@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>> >>><br>> >>>> I vote yes. IMHO there is a shortage of computers for<br>> hacking
at<br>> >>>> noisebridge.<br>> >>>> iMac has small footprint and is easily moved about with<br>> built-in monitor.<br>> >>>> If powersupply is bad, probably not too hard to fix that.<br>> Much better than<br>> >>>> the two old G4s that are unused (one a 400mhz).<br>> >>>><br>> >>>><br>> >>>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Tymm Twillman<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:tymmothy@gmail.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=tymmothy@gmail.com">tymmothy@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>> Friend just sent me an iMac G5 20/2.1 (FA064LL/A) that<br>> died on her, that<br>> >>>>> she'd like to go to a good cause. not sure the source of<br>> problem -- and<br>> >>>>> don't have time to investigate -- but it's totally dead,<br>> no signs of power.<br>> >>>>> drive's been pulled but she said everything else should<br>> be there.<br>> >>>>><br>>
>>>>> if someone wants to give it a go, i'd be happy to pass<br>> it on to<br>> >>>>> Noisebridge. would like receipt (just for something to<br>> help offset her<br>> >>>>> shipping costs). faster service if someone's able to<br>> pick it up at Cesar<br>> >>>>> Chavez & Pennsylvania, otherwise could be a week or 2<br>> before i'm able to<br>> >>>>> drop off.<br>> >>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>
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>>> (503) 539-3700<br>> >>><br>> >>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from<br>> science."<br>> >>><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<br>> >> <a ymailto="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net" href="/mc/compose?to=Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>>
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