<p>Noisebridge memberships are reasonable but increasing memberships and reducing access to non-members may be a way to go, possibly having certain open access hours instead. Though with increased volume of memberships comes more usage. Crunching the numbers would be in order.</p>
<p>But, that brings up another question: To what group does increase of power usage correlate? Members current w/ no increase, members new, non-members, etc.?</p>
<p>If to new members then net revenue should be the same. And, so on.</p>
<p>Bruce<br></p>
<p>Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 25, 2011 10:24 AM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <<a href="mailto:rachelyra@gmail.com">rachelyra@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> If anything I would say overall use of the sewing machines has declined over<br>
> the last year; it used to be much harder to get time on the single needle.<br>> <br>> In the last year we have acquired some big hogs:<br>> -vending machine<br>> -second fridge<br>> -lazor<br>> <br>
> As well as, in my estimation, slightly increasing kitchen use and steadily<br>> increasingly large numbers of people that are soldering on mondays. Also,<br>> just MORE users. If we are charging 20 more laptops every week that could<br>
> add up, no?<br>> <br>> IMNSHO all commendable uses of the space (well, except maybe the vending<br>> machine, curious what the ROI is there when it's adjusted for power<br>> consumption).<br>> <br>
> Maybe we can find a way to blame the hippies.<br>> <br>> Maybe we can find a way to more prominently solicit donations.<br>> <br>> <a href="http://mediumreality.com">mediumreality.com</a><br>> On Jun 24, 2011 6:27 PM, "Bruce Wolfe" <<a href="mailto:brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com">brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> How about WiFi webcams with white LEDs pointing onto the meters? Then you<br>>> can walk around the space with a smartphone even, unplugging devices and<br>>> don't need the additional humans in the creepy basement.<br>
>><br>>> How many new servers were installed lately, too? Remember, that data<br>> centers<br>>> charge for rackspace based on power consumption.<br>>><br>>> I have to say that kitchen appliances and anything that is AC motorized<br>
> will<br>>> probably be the culprit. Sorry, fabric-hackers, maybe sewing machines.<br>>><br>>> Good luck.<br>>> Bruce<br>>><br>>><br>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Danny O'Brien <<a href="mailto:danny@spesh.com">danny@spesh.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>>>> We have mechanical meters, I think the smart meters are due in the next<br>>>> year or so.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Bruce Wolfe <<a href="mailto:brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com">brucewolfe.sf@gmail.com</a><br>
>>wrote:<br>>>><br>>>>> Additionally, are these PG$E mechanical or Smart meters?<br>>>>><br>>>>> Bruce<br>>>>><br>>>>> Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.<br>
>>>> On Jun 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "jim" <<a href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> ><br>>>>> > Good idea. A variant is to unplug the suspect device<br>
>>>> > and plug it into something that measures Amps (e.g. a<br>>>>> > variac). What this will yield is a snapshot of amps.<br>>>>> > What's additionally needed is to know the amount of use<br>
>>>> > during a billing period.<br>>>>> > A gizmo such as Andy's suggestion (we have one buried<br>>>>> > behind the refridge next to the vending machine) can show<br>>>>> > power usage for a time period. (I saw it but didn't want<br>
>>>> > to move all the stuff necessary so's to retrieve it--if<br>>>>> > someone does retrieve it, maybe it'd be good to have a<br>>>>> > well-known storage place for it or the note someone would<br>
>>>> > write to indicate it's current working location.)<br>>>>> > I suspect the cooking stuff as the primary sucker of<br>>>>> > power and NB money: can cookers tell if there's been<br>
>>>> > greater use of that stuff in the last three months over<br>>>>> > the previous quarter?<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> ><br>>>>> ><br>>>>> ><br>
>>>> > On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:10 -0700, Bruce Wolfe wrote:<br>>>>> >> Go analog and start unplugging things one at a time while someone is<br>>>>> >> watching the meter spin (or numbers flip) while on walkie-talkies, or<br>
>>>> >> a human chain to relay the message up and down or maybe just plain<br>> old<br>>>>> >> two cans and string.<br>>>>> >><br>>>>> >> Bruce<br>
>>>> >><br>>>>> >><br>>>>> >> Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.<br>>>>> >><br>>>>> >> _______________________________________________<br>
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