NB really needs to start fostering a more open and friendly relationship with the local police. There seems to be this sense that if we ever let them in the space they'd think we were running a meth lab. so what do we do? act suspicious and paranoid as hell which would be pretty normal behavior of people running a meth lab. I learned, at least personally through 2 years of protesting, that the nicer and more cooperative you are with the local police (to a reasonable extent of course) the more lenient and understanding they'll be when shit goes down that they need to deal with. It seems that the people who are the most stand-offish towards the police are also the same sorts of people who end up causing�unnecessary�problems with them and end up getting into stupid situations that merely fuels their confirmation bias (an extreme example i can think of are those�sovereign�citizen wack-jobs) whereas those willing to cooperate to a reasonable and civil extent tend to find police far more personable and easier to deal with.<br>
<br>either way this security-by-committee thing is both frustrating and amusing to watch.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Davidfine <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d@vidfine.com">d@vidfine.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">We don't need an intercom or a klaxxon, that seems absurdly<br>
non-confrontational. Just yell for help ejecting the person and make it<br>
happen. Open communities that don't have a means of ejecting destructive<br>
people tend to collapse. Let that be a motivation to take an active role<br>
in conflict.<br>
<font color="#888888">--D<br>
</font><div class="im"><br>
On 9/8/11 2:31 PM, <a href="mailto:travis%2Bml-noisebridge@subspacefield.org">travis+ml-noisebridge@subspacefield.org</a> wrote:<br>
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 04:40:22PM -0700, Jake wrote:<br>
>> A friend of mine works in a low income clinic and says that when a person<br>
>> is being problematic and has to leave, all the workers stop what they're<br>
>> doing and stand shoulder to shoulder, forming a human wall that causes the<br>
>> person to move toward the exit. �This usually does the trick with no<br>
>> touching necessary. �It is important to remember that a person acting<br>
>> irrational may be able to be convinced that leaving is less scary than<br>
>> staying, and they will choose to do so forthwith.<br>
><br>
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