I agree with Davidfine on this. If someone is not being excellent, just
get them to leave, no fancy bells and whistles or bureaucracy necessary. I really
felt Kayla's frustration at the whole drawn out situation ending
up with Jay still there and nothing done about it, while she was stuck
with the possible early death of her Macbook Pro. <br>
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And on a tangent, not sure what the point was of labeling problem people
as loners in the other email. Loners generally don't bother anyone and
just want to be left alone. Problem people usually seem to be the ones who
have a sense of entitlement, like from parents who spoiled them or
from friends who egged on their bad behavior, so if they stumble into
somewhere they automatically think they have a right to do whatever
they want. Or they could just be drunk or on drugs and out of their
mind. In any case, if all they're doing is making people who
are productively using the space not feel like being there, they need to be
shown the door immediately, and if police are needed to help with that,
just let them in for that. <br><br>s.<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Davidfine <<a href="mailto:d@vidfine.com" target="_blank">d@vidfine.com</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net" target="_blank">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:45:18 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge must police itself<br>We don't need an intercom or a klaxxon, that seems absurdly non-confrontational. Just yell for help ejecting the person and make it happen. Open communities that don't have a means of ejecting destructive people tend to collapse. Let that be a motivation to take an active role in conflict.<br>
--D<br><br>