Re: obtaining code - sometimes it works if you write to the authors personally and ask them for a limited non-commercial license to share the code. Tell them you will sign a paper and fax it to them declaring you are using the code for research only non commercial will control its use to within your research group. It might help if you agree to share your results with them !<br>
<br>I have some codes I have such licenses to for other things. But the software may not work for you ! In the process of science often cool results are found but are difficult or impossible for others to duplicate, it may be easier to start from scratch maybe. Sometimes there is a fine line between heuristics fudge factors and cheating. Other times a method works really well for some data and terribly for (possibly most) others.<br>
<br>On the other hand a big part of the rationale for open source is to avoid excessive duplication of efforts. If you are Microsoft maybe you can afford it financially. To work with MS I think you would have to agree to give them exclusive, possibly free in perpetuity, access to your results at least for marketing purposes. Certainly they have always had beta testers for their commercial products.<br>
<br>If you want to develop good relations with upstream developers / inventors I think you need to be able to give detailed feedback, and to try out suggestions they make and report back again, to help narrow down the sources of problems. They DO greatly appreciate to know that people like their software and want to use it, as long as one is at least semi-professional about relating to them, and they do appreciate also help with the more mundane details of creating a useable, distributable product. The need for volunteers is great in Open Source projects, someone has to do it, and if no one volunteers it will not get done ! And it is a great feeling to have been a part of something even if in a small way.<br>
<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Taylor Alexander <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tlalexander@gmail.com">tlalexander@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Yeah, I had a lot of issues with RGBDemo losing track of where it was and building another point cloud at some arbitrary orientation from the original point cloud.<div><br></div><div>RGBD-6D-SLAM was supposed to be better, but is bet run under linux, and by the time I got all that set up, I was kind of over my initial project. Didn't help that I don't own a kinect so I had to go to his house to borrow it. And then, dealing with point clouds is a pain.</div>
<div><br></div><div>When I find a *good* solution, I'll totally buy a kinect. Not interested in it for the gaming though.</div><div><br></div><div>I just wish MS would release the dam source for that new demo already. As best as I can tell, they have said NOTHING about it except what they showed at SIGGRAPH. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Also, total aside, but have any of you guys seen what they're doing on the Ultimaker mailing list?</div><div><br></div><div>Someone posted this today:</div><div><a href="http://i.imgur.com/rmZGK.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/rmZGK.jpg</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm not that familiar with this DIY 3D printing, but as far as I can tell that blows most everything else current out of the water! Of course please correct me if I'm wrong.</div><div><br></div>
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<div>-Taylor</div></font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:40 PM, David Rorex <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:drorex@gmail.com" target="_blank">drorex@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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In my experience, whenever you see a really amazing software in a research paper, the source never gets released. Probably because they are researchers and not software developers, their code is buggy / user unfriendly / uses expensive proprietary libraries / only works well in specially controlled conditions that the average person would consider cheating? I dunno.<br>
<br>Usually you have to wait for someone else to look at the research, and then implement it from scratch (this someone could even be you!). Which could be anywhere from a couple weeks to never, probably depending on the complexity, usefulness, popularity of the research, and how well the paper actually explains it.<br>
<br>RGBDemo already has room reconstruction like in the microsoft kinectfusion demo, and is open source, unfortunately the speed & quality is nowhere near the kinectfusion one. Hopefully it continues to improve, it's still fairly new.<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Taylor Alexander <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tlalexander@gmail.com" target="_blank">tlalexander@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
There is also:<div><a href="http://www.ros.org/wiki/openni/Contests/ROS%203D/RGBD-6D-SLAM" target="_blank">http://www.ros.org/wiki/openni/Contests/ROS%203D/RGBD-6D-SLAM</a></div><div><br></div><div>And, as I said before, some really promising work done by microsoft, that has yet to be released.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGhaggn3cQ" style="color:rgb(0, 101, 204)" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGhaggn3cQ</a></span></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">There's also these guys:</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH58u_057Ac" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH58u_057Ac</a></font></div>
<div><br></div><div>But I e-mailed them months ago and all they said is they "may" release the code. Of course, I haven't checked, its possible they have by now...</div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Unfortunately I'm not on all these mailing lists, so I *can't* reply to everyone. I should sign up for them though... I recently decided to buy an Ultimaker (yay!) so I'll have a much more functional interest in this stuff soon.</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">If someone could forward this to all the lists that are not NB Discuss, it would ensure everyone got it. Clearly though I should get on the others though...</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#888888"><font face="arial, sans-serif">-Taylor<br></font></font><div><div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:02 PM, David Rorex <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:drorex@gmail.com" target="_blank">drorex@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I've done a little playing with the kinect for 3d scanning. Can get a 3d model of the front half of something pretty easily, for example here's me:<br>
<a href="http://davr.org/uploads/meshlab.png" target="_blank">http://davr.org/uploads/meshlab.png</a><br>
<br>Getting a full object scan requires either:<br>A) Manually taking a couple scans from different angles and merging them in meshlab, eg:<br><a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/Using-Meshlab-to-Clean-and-Assemble-Laser-Scan-Dat/" target="_blank">http://www.instructables.com/id/Using-Meshlab-to-Clean-and-Assemble-Laser-Scan-Dat/</a><br>
<br>B) Using RGBDemo room constructor mode with a special box around the object to fake it out into thinking the kinect is moving, eg:<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7LthXRoESw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7LthXRoESw</a><br>
<br>I've collected useful kinect links at the bottom of the page here:<br><a href="http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Kinect" target="_blank">http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Kinect</a><div><div></div><div><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Taylor Alexander <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tlalexander@gmail.com" target="_blank">tlalexander@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I've just been waiting for someone to release good code for using a Kinect. Seems like by far the best solution using current tools, aside from the lack of available code.<div>
<br></div><div>Surely you've all seen this:</div>
<div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGhaggn3cQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGhaggn3cQ</a></div><div><br></div><div>I just hope they release and open source that. But its Microsoft, so who knows...</div>
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<br></div><font color="#888888"><div>-Taylor</div></font><div><div></div><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Brian Morris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cymraegish@gmail.com" target="_blank">cymraegish@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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My bookmarks for 3-D scanning:<br>
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<a href="http://code.google.com/p/structured-light/wiki/ofxStructuredLight" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/structured-light/wiki/ofxStructuredLight</a><br>
<a href="http://www.openprocessing.org/visuals/?visualID=1014" target="_blank">http://www.openprocessing.org/visuals/?visualID=1014</a><br>
<a href="http://www.kylemcdonald.net/" target="_blank">http://www.kylemcdonald.net/</a><br>
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/arts/design/makerbot-is-a-new-3-d-printer.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha26" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/arts/design/makerbot-is-a-new-3-d-printer.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha26</a><br>
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Brian<br>
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On 9/15/11, Peter <<a href="mailto:peter.b.harrington@gmail.com" target="_blank">peter.b.harrington@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I will come next week if you guys are still doing it.<br>
> I am going to bring my bot so I can get some expert advice on the effing Z<br>
> stage.<br>
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