<p>By early I would guess he is saying we should talk more about goals needs etc. before going shopping.</p>
<p>Distance from city - geographic, driving time. Distance from medical services. Growing season. Terrain (hilliness, arability, suitability for proposed uses). Water supply. Availability of services (power, internet, sewage, roads/maintenance). Poison oak, or no?</p>
<p>There is lots of amazing land in california, and if you are willing to cling to a mountaintop it's pretty cheap. It might be helpful to narrow down what it's for and what the parameters are before picking a region.</p>
<p>R.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 18, 2011 4:17 PM, "Jake" <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
What do you mean by Early? I don't understand.<br>
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I looked for Jupiter, CA on google maps and it didn't come up, it's too bad because it would be really cool to convince all the other hackerspaces that we have an outpost on Jupiter.<br>
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Whats the environment like out there? I prefer temperatures between 50 and 90 degrees. I guess i will look at google maps and see what color it is from space.<br>
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It's true that 40 minutes down a dirt road is a bit much, although i would be okay with 20 personally. But it really depends on the other merits of the land.. lush and green, or tan and rocky make all the difference.<br>
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On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, michael o wrote:<br>
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this sounds like a great idea! though it is early for looking for property,<br>
might I suggest looking in Tuolumne county 3 hours east of SF. my family has<br>
land out in the 'suburb' called 'Jupiter' though 40 minutes down a dirt road<br>
is not really what you are looking for but I there are other spots near and<br>
around, including down out by James town going toward wards ferry. look at<br>
a map and check it out, it's beautiful out there and the land is cheap. <br>
<br>
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br>
I have been inspired to create NoiseLand, a wiki page which will<br>
hopefully<br>
lead to the purchase of a large parcel of land in Northern<br>
California.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/NoiseLand" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/<u></u>wiki/NoiseLand</a><br>
<br>
If we have enough resources, someone should create a NoiseLand<br>
discussion<br>
list, to supplement the wiki page. But let the discussion begin<br>
here and<br>
now.<br>
<br>
-jake<br>
<br>
Ben wrote:<br>
<br>
> I am curious as to your ideas for sustainable community<br>
living. See,<br>
> it's really hard to consume no processed or produced goods and<br>
make<br>
> everything yourself when one lives as our society has<br>
dictated: as<br>
> consumers. As consumers we are all sealed off in our own<br>
little boxes<br>
> (prisons actually or one might say the cave) scrabbling to get<br>
the<br>
> latest shiny and fuck everybody else, it's all about me son<br>
along with<br>
> the sure belief that no matter what, it surely is someone<br>
else's fault.<br>
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