i seen plots 8+ acres in vacacille for $80,000<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 November 2011 18:22, Jake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:<br>
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By early I would guess he is saying we should talk more about goals needs<br>
etc. before going shopping.<br>
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yes, let's talk about such things. What would you like NoiseLand to be like? What are your goals?<br>
<br>
I think that many of us City-dwellers would be unable to dedicate ourselves full-time to such a project, but by banding together with a like-minded community as we have done, we can create a resource for all of us.<br>
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Depending on what size and kind of land we get, we could have from a medium-sized garden to a large-scale agricultural operation. I would like to see something in the middle, where the land would be able to produce at least enough food for the people living there.<br>
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<a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/NoiseLand" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/<u></u>wiki/NoiseLand</a><br>
is a wiki, so people can add their own ideas to the page itself, but really we should continue to talk about it in this thread or on a separate Noiseland-discuss list, if one gets created. But for now it should stay here.<br>
<br>
You mention that you can get cheap land if you're willing to die alone, cold and hungry on top of a mountain, but before Noisebridge found a rental space I did not believe that we could afford anything close to the mission, or any BART station. I have been proven wrong, but now I know that we could buy an A+ parcel of land without comprimise by pooling our resources.<br>
<br>
I have added your list of attributes to consider to the wiki, and now i'm adding a Proposed uses and purposes of NoiseLand. I invite others to do the same but they should also post such ideas to this thread, since otherwise people may not notice who have "already read" the wiki.<br>
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1. A place for people from the Noisebridge community to go to get away from the city<br>
2. A place for people from the Noisebridge and NoiseLand community to live and work<br>
3. Gardening, Farming, Agriculture, Aquaculture, Mushroom growing<br>
4. A base from which to hunt wild animals and pick wild mushrooms<br>
5. Somewhere to build giant projects<br>
6. A place to experiment with solar energy collection<br>
7. Robot Orange Pickers<br>
8. Drugs and wild parties in the woods<br>
9. Naked all the time<br>
10. All the benefits of owning a giant parcel of land but shared responsibility and cost<br>
<br>
I dare you to add #11<br>
<br>
-jake<br>
P.S. also, your dog.<br>
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Distance from city - geographic, driving time. Distance from medical<br>
services. Growing season. Terrain (hilliness, arability, suitability for<br>
proposed uses). Water supply. Availability of services (power, internet,<br>
sewage, roads/maintenance). Poison oak, or no?<br>
<br>
There is lots of amazing land in california, and if you are willing to cling<br>
to a mountaintop it's pretty cheap. It might be helpful to narrow down what<br>
it's for and what the parameters are before picking a region.<br>
<br>
R.<br>
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On Nov 18, 2011 4:17 PM, "Jake" <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br>
What do you mean by Early? áI don't understand.<br>
<br>
I looked for Jupiter, CA on google maps and it didn't come up,<br>
it's too bad because it would be really cool to convince all the<br>
other hackerspaces that we have an outpost on Jupiter.<br>
<br>
Whats the environment like out there? áI prefer temperatures<br>
between 50 and 90 degrees. áI guess i will look at google maps<br>
and see what color it is from space.<br>
<br>
It's true that 40 minutes down a dirt road is a bit much,<br>
although i would be okay with 20 personally. áBut it really<br>
depends on the other merits of the land.. lush and green, or tan<br>
and rocky make all the difference.<br>
<br>
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, michael o wrote:<br>
<br>
this sounds like a great idea! though it is early<br>
for looking for property,<br>
might I suggest looking in Tuolumne county 3 hours<br>
east of SF. my family has<br>
land out in the 'suburb' called 'Jupiter' though 40<br>
minutes down a dirt road<br>
is not really what you are looking for but I there<br>
are other spots near and<br>
around, including down out by James town going<br>
toward wards ferry. álook at<br>
a map and check it out, it'sábeautifuláout there and<br>
the land is cheap.á<br>
<br>
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Jake<br>
<<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br>
á á áI have been inspired to create NoiseLand, a<br>
wiki page which will<br>
á á áhopefully<br>
á á álead to the purchase of a large parcel of land<br>
in Northern<br>
á á áCalifornia.<br>
<br>
á á á<a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/NoiseLand" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/<u></u>wiki/NoiseLand</a><br>
<br>
á á áIf we have enough resources, someone should<br>
create a NoiseLand<br>
á á ádiscussion<br>
á á álist, to supplement the wiki page. áBut let the<br>
discussion begin<br>
á á áhere and<br>
á á ánow.<br>
<br>
á á á-jake<br>
<br>
á á áBen wrote:<br>
<br>
á á á> I am curious as to your ideas for sustainable<br>
community<br>
á á áliving. See,<br>
á á á> it's really hard to consume no processed or<br>
produced goods and<br>
á á ámake<br>
á á á> everything yourself when one lives as our<br>
society has<br>
á á ádictated: as<br>
á á á> consumers. As consumers we are all sealed off<br>
in our own<br>
á á álittle boxes<br>
á á á> (prisons actually or one might say the cave)<br>
scrabbling to get<br>
á á áthe<br>
á á á> latest shiny and fuck everybody else, it's<br>
all about me son<br>
á á áalong with<br>
á á á> the sure belief that no matter what, it<br>
surely is someone<br>
á á áelse's fault.<br>
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