Thanks for mentioning the child abuse thing. I was just thinking about the PTSD angle last night. There is the delayed onset kind which can pop up all of a sudden in adult life and really disrupt a persons life and where prompt treatment effort really is so critical. Feeling 'crazy' can definitely make you depressed and possibly suicidal.<br>
<br>Not just violent childhood abuse either but simple neglect - probably more strongly related to normal depression tho.<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Christina Olson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daravinne@gmail.com">daravinne@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">it's not just serotonin, it's also dopamine and oxytocin and probably<br>
a range of other hormones (cross referencing hypothyroidism and<br>
atypical depression gets interesting results). I am also a member of<br>
Mendeley and have found several preliminary studies connecting various<br>
forms of childhood abuse with an inability to produce normal levels of<br>
oxytocin, or an inability to produce it from normal stimuli (physical<br>
contact with others). I would personally like to see this line of<br>
study pursued, but since oxytocin can't be simply administered (via<br>
nasal spray or any other form of intake) there is little<br>
pharmaceutical interest in putting money towards more studies.<br>
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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Brian Morris <<a href="mailto:cymraegish@gmail.com">cymraegish@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> You can affect your serotonin through diet. There is no universal<br>
> treaemt it must be individualized<br>
><br>
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> On 11/24/11, Koen Martens <<a href="mailto:gmc@sonologic.nl">gmc@sonologic.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 01:47:13PM -0800, Felix Sargent wrote:<br>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Will Sargent<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:will.sargent@gmail.com">will.sargent@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > 1) Direct sunlight.<br>
>>> > 2) 8 hours of sleep.<br>
>>> > 3) Movement outside.<br>
>>> > 4) Social interaction.<br>
>>> > 5) Regular meals.<br>
>>> > 6) Satisfying work.<br>
>><br>
>> These are all very good suggestions, and doing the above will help you feel<br>
>> better overall.<br>
>><br>
>> Yet, there is a chemical process at the heart of depression, the serotonine<br>
>> balance in the brain is a huge factor in this. I've been depressed ever<br>
>> since I remembered, even while all of the above were part of my upbringing<br>
>> for the first decade and some of my life. If you are born with a small<br>
>> defect in the production or re-uptake of serotonin, you can exercise all<br>
>> you want: it won't fix the defect.<br>
>><br>
>> SSRI medication can help with that in part (always in combination with the<br>
>> above as far as i'm concerned), even though many in the community are very<br>
>> eager to bash anti-depressants. It can be a life saver!<br>
>><br>
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