<p>Theres a totally different paper made of mesh, it isnt sandpaper. Its used for drywall. </p>
<p> use that to make it flat and be done...</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 28, 2011 2:20 PM, "jim" <<a href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
good point re grit size. 80 grit will probably work<br>
for a first pass. 100 or 120 grit will probably be fine<br>
for the final pass. (don't forget the elasticity of<br>
standards, e.g. "fuck it, looks fine to me.")<br>
150 grit and finer will require a lot more work<br>
without any apparent benefit once covered with water-<br>
based paint.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 14:13 -0800, miloh wrote:<br>
> There are drywall sanders in the drywall tool bin, last seen by me<br>
> over by the kitchen near the mushroom logs<br>
><br>
> Use blue drywall sanders with handles for speed and accuracy. Regular<br>
> grit sandpaper is not recommended for this job<br>
><br>
> On Nov 28, 2011 2:05 PM, "jim" <<a href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> as to painting, i'm guessing the 5 gallons of primer<br>
> we now have is PVA white.<br>
> if we're gong to put a top coat over it, i recommend<br>
> white-white, which has the greatest index of reflectivity<br>
> (about 95%; the lightest off-white has 90%, and most very<br>
> light colors reflect less than 90% of the light, some<br>
> light and all medium saturated colors are in the 70s or<br>
> less).<br>
> Not only do we get much more efficient use of lighting<br>
> with white-white, but we have much better control of color<br>
> in the space. note that a commitment to some hue (e.g. blue)<br>
> limits the possibilities of any decorations or alternate<br>
> colors in the space. white-white lets us put up the greatest<br>
> variety of posters and other colored objects without clumsy<br>
> color rhythms.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 10:13 -0800, Shannon Lee wrote:<br>
> > Hi Mike,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > I believe that the mudding is finished in Church; what's<br>
> going to be<br>
> > needed in there is sanding and painting. If you feel like<br>
> > contributing, grab some sand paper from the drawer in the<br>
> shop and get<br>
> > to it!<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Warning: this is an incredibly dusty endeavor.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --S<br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Mike Schachter<br>
> <<a href="mailto:mike@mindmech.com">mike@mindmech.com</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> > Hey Shannon, thanks to you and everyone else<br>
> > for improving the space! I've been a long time<br>
> > Church room enthusiast and was gonna use it<br>
> > to give a little workshop tomorrow around 7pm,<br>
> > but if it's in disarray I'd rather show up and help<br>
> > out with something. So if there's a task I could<br>
> > take on let me know. Like, what are some basic<br>
> > things the Church room needs at this point, or<br>
> > will by tomorrow night?<br>
> ><br>
> > mike<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Shannon Lee<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:shannon@scatter.com">shannon@scatter.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > Hi Noisebridge,<br>
> > > The walls around both classrooms and the shop have<br>
> been<br>
> > extended to the<br>
> > > ceiling.<br>
> > > Sheetrocking is complete; mudding & taping was<br>
> ongoing when<br>
> > I left a couple<br>
> > > of hours ago, but everything was winding down, and<br>
> I suspect<br>
> > that it's done<br>
> > > for the night; when last I looked, Church and<br>
> Turing were<br>
> > mudded, and much<br>
> > > of the outside was mudded; the shop still needs to<br>
> be mudded<br>
> > inside and out.<br>
> > > I will likely not be back to this until this<br>
> weekend, but<br>
> > anyone else who<br>
> > > wants to mud is more than welcome to do so; and of<br>
> course,<br>
> > after mudding<br>
> > > comes sanding, and after sanding comes...<br>
> > > Painting:<br>
> > > We bought a 5 gallon bucket of primer, which I<br>
> plan to put<br>
> > up sometime,<br>
> > > maybe next weekend; but honestly, we really,<br>
> really don't<br>
> > need any more vast<br>
> > > expanses of white walls. Someone who has a Vision<br>
> of what<br>
> > the walls should<br>
> > > look like, and the artistic skill to execute said<br>
> vision,<br>
> > should make them<br>
> > > be something other than white. We really need<br>
> some color on<br>
> > those walls.<br>
> > > Murals are totally welcome, simple non-white<br>
> color schemes<br>
> > are equally<br>
> > > welcome, but someone for God's sake do something.<br>
> > > Power and Lights:<br>
> > > Turing and Church are without light. The shop has<br>
> the light<br>
> > over the<br>
> > > central work bench, and during the day is<br>
> well-served by its<br>
> > skylight, but<br>
> > > at night it's very dark. The neon lighting which<br>
> has been<br>
> > serving the<br>
> > > classrooms and the shop was in two long banks of<br>
> lights<br>
> > which ran<br>
> > > continuously over the three rooms; they had to be<br>
> broken up<br>
> > in order to<br>
> > > allow for walls to be installed. I understand<br>
> that there's<br>
> > a plan in place<br>
> > > to make the remaining lights light up; Jim even<br>
> expressed a<br>
> > revolutionary<br>
> > > idea whereby the lights in a particular room would<br>
> be<br>
> > controlled by a switch<br>
> > > *in that room* so that the people occupying the<br>
> room could<br>
> > control their<br>
> > > need for artifical light.<br>
> > > The power rail above the table in the shop is<br>
> still powered;<br>
> > the rail has<br>
> > > been removed from Church and Turing -- again, to<br>
> make way<br>
> > for walls. Turing<br>
> > > is well-served by its own 20-amp circuit and a<br>
> *lot* of<br>
> > outlets at various<br>
> > > convenient leves; Chuch, however, currently has no<br>
> power of<br>
> > any kind. I<br>
> > > believe there is a plot afoot to power it, as well<br>
> as to<br>
> > mount a projector<br>
> > > and projector screen back there.<br>
> > > If you'd like to be involved in getting power and<br>
> lights<br>
> > where power and<br>
> > > lights should go, I refer you to Jim's missive on<br>
> the topic<br>
> > in a previous<br>
> > > email thread, as well as to Jim, SuperQ and Miloh,<br>
> who are<br>
> > all variously<br>
> > > working on this stuff.<br>
> > > Doors:<br>
> > > Doors are needed for the shop, and possibly for<br>
> Turing and<br>
> > the Turing-Church<br>
> > > Intra-Classroom Door. The big doorway leading to<br>
> the shop<br>
> > needs (ideally)<br>
> > > double swinging doors, of the type you find in<br>
> restraunt<br>
> > kitchen and<br>
> > > hospital settings; the other doors should all (in<br>
> the best<br>
> > of all possible<br>
> > > worlds) have portholes, or windows, or be made of<br>
> glass,<br>
> > because nobody<br>
> > > wants to have their class or meeting constantly<br>
> interrupted<br>
> > by people<br>
> > > opening the door to see if anybody's in there.<br>
> SuperQ is at<br>
> > work on the<br>
> > > door problem; feel free to contact him.<br>
> > > Lots of people showed up this weekend to help out,<br>
> more than<br>
> > I can name<br>
> > > here, but including a one-armed Bandit, a small<br>
> army of<br>
> > purple-haired women,<br>
> > > and an stray 9-year-old girl who came in with her<br>
> parents<br>
> > after having heard<br>
> > > Mitch on NPR and was put to work mudding. Kaya<br>
> deserves a<br>
> > special shout-out<br>
> > > for the use of her truck for hauling everything;<br>
> Danny for<br>
> > getting this<br>
> > > moving, and for paying for a lot of it; and Jurgen<br>
> and Zack<br>
> > for basic<br>
> > > unflappability.<br>
> > > As I said, many more people were involved to one<br>
> extent or<br>
> > another, and I<br>
> > > can think of at least one person whose name I've<br>
> just flat<br>
> > forgotten; thank<br>
> > > you to all of you for having shown up and Just<br>
> Done It when<br>
> > it needed to<br>
> > > Just Be Done.<br>
> > > There is more still to Just Do; if you want a<br>
> task, just<br>
> > ask, and one shall<br>
> > > be given.<br>
> > > --S<br>
> > > --<br>
> > > Shannon Lee<br>
> > > <a href="tel:%28503%29%20539-3700" value="+15035393700">(503) 539-3700</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is<br>
> indistinguishable from<br>
> > science."<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
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